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    What does this look like in practical experience? Se dual seekers, what do you need from another person? Why? What don't you need and can you just do yourself? I'd like to hear from infp's specifically, for obvious reasons.

    Like, do you need someone to pull you out of bed every day? Or just someone who's energetic and active themselves?

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    An INFP friend of mine want a girlfriend that is active and has her own opinion.

    He even declined a couple of girls because they didn't qualify for those traits.

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    I get stressed out when it comes to practical concerns, having to make decisions, getting motivated (rather than putting things off)... I can spend all day in my mind, even when I should be doing something else. But you know, I think of it more as seeking the hidden power to do these things within me... I should be able to manage on my own... I think independence is important. Honestly, people that are really active usually seem to prefer to be around other really active sorts.

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    INFp dual seeking -Se would look just like any other thing they do. Think about this.... someone that has the need to be original(-Ni/+Ne) would have the need to be with someone that overthrows authority. INFps have a need to overthrow authority because of this and are looking for someone that does.

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    I honestly have no idea what it is about Se-dominants that I like, or what it is I need from them, etc.. Hmm.. I think especially in social situations or otherwise when I don't feel comfortable in a situation, I feel like I want someone there to protect me from danger.. not in the sense of actively shielding me, but I think it's more like, if it's a situation wherein I feel uncertain, I want someone else there who I've already established positive relations with who I feel like I can rely on to keep me safe. It's hard to explain exactly, but I think that may be one aspect of Se dual-seeking, leaving your safety in the hands of someone who can keep you safe. Obviously I'm not in a constant danger environment but if ever I do feel apprehensive I like having someone who I feel can protect me from whatever danger there might be, since I know I'm not strong enough (physically or mentally) to stand up to it.

    Saying that though, if it's an environment I feel safe in but someone with me doesn't feel safe, I can take that role of protector that I described above. Well, there's only been one situation with that in, but that situation was that I was at an operatic performance with a close INFp friend at the time. Afterwards when everyone was leaving (the performance was done outdoors) we were trying to battle the crowds and I remember she seemed.. not scared as such but.. well, she seemed apprehensive anyway, and I remember shifting into the role of leader/protector since I didn't feel threatened by the crowds around us at the time, and since my INFp friend did, I took the (temporary) role of leading her safely through the crowds until we got out onto the street where it was a lot quieter. Whether that has anything to do with Se (that is, me taking the protector role) or whether it was just caveman instinct kicking in ("*grunt* caveman protect vulnerable woman *grunt*"), or perhaps a mixture of both, I don't know. But normally in that sort of situation, if I were in my INFp friend's place, I'd want someone else to be the leader to lead me to safety.

    Whew, came up with a lot more than I thought I would. Assuming what I've stated above is applicable to Se dual-seeking types in general, perhaps that would provide a bit of insight (applicable I'd think to both INTps and INFps).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    What does this look like in practical experience? Se dual seekers, what do you need from another person? Why? What don't you need and can you just do yourself? I'd like to hear from infp's specifically, for obvious reasons.
    Basically, it all comes down to a single word: inertia.

    Grounding in the physical body is something I don't find comes naturally to me at all. I'm all emotional and mental. I have difficulty motivating myself for anything physical (like going to the gym). Keeping active physically is a bear; I'm just disinclined to really enjoy strenuous activity. I can't stand sweating and exerting myself.

    People who live "in the moment" with a strong physical presence really amaze me. Guys I've been strongly attracted to usually share this kind of indefinable physical animal magnetism and "immediacy" in their character. They don't overthink, they just DO. I'm too prone to think behind or ahead. Rarely present to what I'm doing right now. In fact, even as I write this, my mind is swimming with things I need to do soon, stuff I thought about all day long, wonderings about what I may be forgetting, anticipation for the play I'm in opening this week, etc.

    I'm not hopelessly impractical -- I mean, most important things I don't like to rely on other people for. I own a home, a car, have a job, etc. But I'm not really ambitious in the least. I always get fabulous ideas for a business or creative endeavour, but I'm just not at all disciplined enough to carry any of them through. I don't like any kind of drudgery and never had much luck forcing myself to stay dedicated to any lofty goal. (Aside from going to college, of course, I needed a degree to support myself in the manner I grew accustomed to). This is probably the reason I will never have children. Too much work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    Like, do you need someone to pull you out of bed every day? Or just someone who's energetic and active themselves?
    I can get out of bed, albeit always reluctantly. (I rather like sleeping). But I do think that I do need a partner/mate who can energize me. I recall this guy I was really attracted to (likely an ESTp), who was an avid enthusiast -- at one point, he was really into biking. I volunteered to go biking with him on more than a few occasions (miles!) just so I could spend time with him. No way I'd ever be inclined to do that for myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta
    Think about this.... someone that has the need to be original(-Ni/+Ne) would have the need to be with someone that overthrows authority. INFps have a need to overthrow authority because of this and are looking for someone that does.
    So sayeth YOU.
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    Afterwards when everyone was leaving (the performance was done outdoors) we were trying to battle the crowds and I remember she seemed.. not scared as such but.. well, she seemed apprehensive anyway, and I remember shifting into the role of leader/protector since I didn't feel threatened by the crowds around us at the time, and since my INFp friend did, I took the (temporary) role of leading her safely through the crowds until we got out onto the street where it was a lot quieter. Whether that has anything to do with Se (that is, me taking the protector role) or whether it was just caveman instinct kicking in ("*grunt* caveman protect vulnerable woman *grunt*"), or perhaps a mixture of both, I don't know. But normally in that sort of situation, if I were in my INFp friend's place, I'd want someone else to be the leader to lead me to safety.

    While reflecting upon Se, I actually thought of this being a possible example. Leading reluctant people through crowds.


    I do it frequently, I've kicked some balls in too because at crowds such as concerts, groping is inevitiable. So I hit them down low and keep pushing so there is no way they could catch up to me anyhow. If they did catch up, I'd just hit them again and I should have time to scat if they are bigger than I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta
    INFp dual seeking -Se would look just like any other thing they do. Think about this.... someone that has the need to be original(-Ni/+Ne) would have the need to be with someone that overthrows authority. INFps have a need to overthrow authority because of this and are looking for someone that does.
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    The first thing that occured to me is: iniative. That's more of an practical necessity, rather than what I seek.

    And after thinking for a while: someone to motivate me, and someone to take care of practical things.

    But unlike the other posters, I don't need proctection or a riot police
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    But unlike the other posters, I don't need proctection or a riot police
    People like my ENFj friend seem to need me to do it most. And my IxFp possie I seem to have accumulated here in Sarasota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
    Quote Originally Posted by hitta
    INFp dual seeking -Se would look just like any other thing they do. Think about this.... someone that has the need to be original(-Ni/+Ne) would have the need to be with someone that overthrows authority. INFps have a need to overthrow authority because of this and are looking for someone that does.
    Do everyone a favor and actually meet some real, live human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune
    I can get out of bed, albeit always reluctantly. (I rather like sleeping). But I do think that I do need a partner/mate who can energize me. I recall this guy I was really attracted to (likely an ESTp), who was an avid enthusiast -- at one point, he was really into biking. I volunteered to go biking with him on more than a few occasions (miles!) just so I could spend time with him. No way I'd ever be inclined to do that for myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno
    An INFP friend of mine want a girlfriend that is active and has her own opinion.

    He even declined a couple of girls because they didn't qualify for those traits.
    I'll be his girlfriend.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    I find I have all the motivation I need when I have an outlet for energy/expression. I get really depressed when I don't have that. As per dual-seeking, nothing fancy, really. I'm looking for someone to play with, really - someone who is funny and irreverent and will react to me and who I can react back to in a carefree way. Basically someone to remind me not to take myself too seriously, and vice versa and can defuse my angst (or at least make it seem less personal). That's what ESTps are best at, IME.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I find I have all the motivation I need when I have an outlet for energy/expression. I get really depressed when I don't have that. As per dual-seeking, nothing fancy, really. I'm looking for someone to play with, really - someone who is funny and irreverent and will react to me and who I can react back to in a carefree way. Basically someone to remind me not to take myself too seriously, and vice versa and can defuse my angst (or at least make it seem less personal). That's what ESTps are best at, IME.
    huh. this sounds like me. at least IRL, lol. seriously though that's what infp man would say i think.

    that is also reassuring about having enough motivation and finding the right outlets. i tend to motivate people pretty easily. i can do a lot of practical stuff.

    thanks! :wink:

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    Se dual-seeking is simple. Think of the Se-seeker as a masochist and the Se as a swarm of anal beads. The Se-seeker wants the anal beads (Se) to be tightly packed into their anus so the Se can be like "huhuh im in ur ass i pwn u" and the masochist can be like "lol ur inside my butt wat can i do?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    Se dual-seeking is simple. Think of the Se-seeker as a masochist and the Se as a swarm of anal beads. The Se-seeker wants the anal beads (Se) to be tightly packed into their anus so the Se can be like "huhuh im in ur ass i pwn u" and the masochist can be like "lol ur inside my butt wat can i do?".
    LOL and you're just armed w those anal beads aren't ya disco? lol

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    Se's I know are highly aware of surroundings, accurately factual, sophisticated, reactive, adaptive, and keen on status enhancement.

    Ni's I know are imaginative, novel, esoteric, mysterious, obscure, and often just unaware of their environment.

    Where as Ne's I know are always making predictions, planning, finding hidden implications, and looking at possibilities, based more on external things, and focused on external theories. Ni's always seem lost in their own world, where Ne's are focused more on the external.

    Of course people do all of these things, but its simple to say one is dominating.

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    Wink Se Dual Seeking function for IEIs

    the IEI's suggestive function is and it yields some interesting quirks. I've heard it said that, "The SLE abuses the IEI, and the IEI cries for more". Obviously an exaggeration, but i'd be interested in hearing some examples of the dual seeking function.
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    what!
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    Someone who doesn't interact with the outside world, needs an extravert to do things with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    What is Korpsy's Se dual seeking like? What is the boy edition doing seeking Se?
    lol He doesn't seek it.

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    "A desire to take it up the ass." A straight quote from my IEI friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    "A desire to take it up the ass." A straight quote from my IEI friend.
    I was thinking more of "needing a swift kick in the ass", but I could see both being the case.
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    Se Dual seekers need a fucking stick wedged up their ass then put on a catapult and launched to the moon where they can go fuck their own ass and accomplish things for the first time in their life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    Se Dual seekers need a fucking stick wedged up their ass then put on a catapult and launched to the moon where they can go fuck their own ass and accomplish things for the first time in their life.
    Oh, weird. Sounds like me!
     
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