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    Default How do you motivate a female SLE/ESTp

    Any ideas about how you can motivate a female ESTp?

    I think she got hurt bad some time ago. She retreated to some secluded "safe" location (her parents house somewhere in the middle of nowhere).
    Now she tries to get back into society and she's facing all kind of problems.

    Any ideas what might help?
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    You shouldn't have to motivate an SLE.

    If she's an E8, time is all you can give her.
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    Maybe reassurance that she's on the right track and it's worth spending energy to keep trying to get back to society. The way I see it, ESTps are like a car that just keeps moving with loud sound of the engine. Sometimes it hits an obstacle and starts moving in another direction, but it's not likely to stop. INFps are the map-readers who makes sure car doesn't hit any trees and that the direction is right. Right now your friend is probably spending all her energy and willpower on something else. Describe where she could end up and it's a good future if she's willing to work for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    You shouldn't have to motivate an SLE.
    I don't know where you got that impression. IME, ESTps are prone to periods of reclusiveness and apathy that can compromise their chances of re-entry into everyday life after a while. It's very hard to get them out of this state (which borders on depression), but the only way this will happen is if they have someone "on the outside" who can pull them back out into civilization again. Usually, you don't have to do anything but get them out into a more social environment and they know what to do from there. Strangely enough, the same exact thing happens with INFps.
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    Maybe some pictures?

    I dunno, I agree that time seems to be the best. That and understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    You shouldn't have to motivate an SLE.
    I don't know where you got that impression. IME, ESTps are prone to periods of reclusiveness and apathy that can compromise their chances of re-entry into everyday life after a while. It's very hard to get them out of this state (which borders on depression), but the only way this will happen is if they have someone "on the outside" who can pull them back out into civilization again. Usually, you don't have to do anything but get them out into a more social environment and they know what to do from there. Strangely enough, the same exact thing happens with INFps.
    Funny this should be mentioned. I've just been thrown back into that state of resignation myself. But I'm very averse to forcing myself to be social at times like this. Just feels so fake to put on the brave face. I feel like sinking into non-caring and shutting everyone out; compelled to escape yet wishing I didn't feel so isolated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune
    Funny this should be mentioned. I've just been thrown back into that state of resignation myself. But I'm very averse to forcing myself to be social at times like this. Just feels so fake to put on the brave face. I feel like sinking into non-caring and shutting everyone out; compelled to escape yet wishing I didn't feel so isolated.
    I get that feeling too sometimes. I don't know if it is type related or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    You shouldn't have to motivate an SLE.
    I don't know where you got that impression. IME, ESTps are prone to periods of reclusiveness and apathy that can compromise their chances of re-entry into everyday life after a while. It's very hard to get them out of this state (which borders on depression), but the only way this will happen is if they have someone "on the outside" who can pull them back out into civilization again. Usually, you don't have to do anything but get them out into a more social environment and they know what to do from there. Strangely enough, the same exact thing happens with INFps.
    Yeah, this is pretty spot-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    You shouldn't have to motivate an SLE.
    I don't know where you got that impression. IME, ESTps are prone to periods of reclusiveness and apathy that can compromise their chances of re-entry into everyday life after a while. It's very hard to get them out of this state (which borders on depression), but the only way this will happen is if they have someone "on the outside" who can pull them back out into civilization again. Usually, you don't have to do anything but get them out into a more social environment and they know what to do from there. Strangely enough, the same exact thing happens with INFps.
    Okay, well, I don't get this. I work it out on my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Okay, well, I don't get this. I work it out on my own.
    Of course you do... is not like you're a weakling in need of help. :wink:

    I've tried Kristiina's advice because it felt in alignment with my intuition and... when I thought a little bit about it... I realized... "wait a second, ESTp doesn't need help to overcome obstacles... they will pass right through them if the see the nice things past them" so I pointed some obvious nice things in the future...
    That and a few jokes kinda did the trick... at least for now
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    my initial feeling is that she might have gotten into legal trouble and not just "hurt."


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