I find her fascinating. Any clue as to her type?
Simone de Beauvoir
I find her fascinating. Any clue as to her type?
EII
I'll tell you what
there is plenty wrong with me
but I fixed up a few old buildings
and I've planted a few trees.
Never considered herself a philosopher, but a novelist, (even though a lot of people consider her more the former than the latter.) Good friend and lover of Sartre. Articulated existentialist 'ethics.'
xNFp -- (can't determine quadra ethics)
In what way do you find her fascinating?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
any I-type. only says and thinks "me, mine, myself" etc.
BUMP
Hey, so what does everyone think de Beauvoir's type may be? On Socionix forum Se-ESI is a potential typing. What do you all think?
She's a Ni type, ILI or IEI
Existentialism is very INFp. Another example would be Søren Kierkegaard.
The reason why I'm curious is that I know a young woman whom I think is quite similar to de Beauvoir in both looks and intellect -- a very similar elegance as well. I'm not good enough at typing yet to come to a conclusion either way on both. Here's an interview with de Beauvoir:
So EII would be your guess?Originally Posted by sevjenn
Yes, apparently -- I once read somewhere that de Beauvoir was also kind of a smartass. So EII it is then!
SEI
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Answers like this always make me want to make passionate love to you!
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Simone de Beauvoir
“I am awfully greedy; I want everything from life. I want to be a woman and to be a man, to have many friends and to have loneliness, to work much and write good books, to travel and enjoy myself, to be selfish and to be unselfish… You see, it is difficult to get all which I want. And then when I do not succeed I get mad with anger.”
“One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman.”
“When I was a child, when I was an adolescent, books saved me from despair: that convinced me that culture was the highest of values[...].”
“I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for truth - and truth rewarded me.”
“Representation of the world, like the world itself, is the work of men; they describe it from their own point of view, which they confuse with absolute truth.”
“The point is not for women simply to take power out of men’s hands, since that wouldn’t change anything about the world. It’s a question precisely of destroying that notion of power.”
“A freedom which is interested only in denying freedom must be denied. And it is not true that the recognition of the freedom of others limits my own freedom: to be free is not to have the power to do anything you like; it is to be able to surpass the given toward an open future; the existence of others as a freedom defines my situation and is even the condition of my own freedom. I am oppressed if I am thrown into prison, but not if I am kept from throwing my neighbor into prison.”
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http://www.iep.utm.edu/beauvoir/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...ophyandsociety
I noticed there was no thread for her type.
I think she's Ni dominant, tentatively ILI>IEI.
uhm strange that my 'advanced search' didn't show it
Google search works better than advance forum search ime.
Yeah, same experience. Typing the name and surname combo in quotation marks plus the word socionics usually works pretty good if a thread exists.
Love letter
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/19...-nelson-algren
NELSON, MY LOVE. It was only 23 hours to arrive to Paris, we landed at 6, it was dawn. I was very tired after two nights without sleep, I drank coffee and took two little pills in order to keep myself awake through the long day. Paris was very beautiful, a little foggy, with a mild grey sky, and the smell of drying leaves. I was very glad to find I had much to do here, so much to do that I shall go to the country only next month. First the radio gives to the Temps Modernes a full hour each week to speak about what we like, in the way we like. You know what it means, the possibility of reaching thousands of people, and trying to make them think and feel in the way we believe right to think and feel... Then the socialist party wishes to confer with us, to try to make a connection between policy and philosophy. People here seem to begin to believe ideas are something important... I want to work, to work very much. Because the reason I do not stay in Chicago is just this need I always felt in me to work and give my life a meaning by working. You have the same need, and that is one of the reasons for which we understand each other so well. You want to write books, good books, and by writing them to help the world to be a little better. I want it too. I want to convey to people the way of thinking which is mine and which I believe true. I should give up travels and all kinds of entertainments, I should give up friends and the sweetness of Paris to be able to remain forever with you; but I could not live just for happiness and love, I could not give up writing and working in the only place where my writing and work may have a meaning.... Among the lies of communism and of anticommunism, against this lack of freedom which happens nearly everywhere in France, something has to be done by people who can try to do it, and who care for it. My love, this does not make any discrepancy between us; on the contrary, I feel very near you in this attempt to struggle for what I feel true and good, just as you do yourself. But, knowing it is all right, I cannot help nevertheless to cry madly this evening because I was so happy with you, I loved you so much, and you are far away. SATURDAY. I was so tired, I slept fourteen hours, I just wake up once in the middle of the night to think of you and cry a little more. I was so ugly this morning by crying so hard that, meeting Camus in the street he asked me if I was not pregnant: he told me I had the mask!
probably Te creative
I don't know why some ppl type her Fi in the other thread .. her ideas about becoming vs being born a woman (dynamic, not static) and the world as representation that is taken for truth ring Ni.
Last edited by Amber; 04-13-2015 at 05:23 PM.
maybe someone can merge the two threads, if it's bothersome ...I don't think folks have many answers on SdB's type anyway ..
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