OMG Someone Type him!

[idealistichick]

For some reason he can't look me in the face but he is normal with everyone else. So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls. I told "I don't give a shit and I don't feel like answering". So then he said ok and hung up. I called him back asking him why he hung up on me. He said that I was acting "stupid" and I told him to call me when he's not being so mean. Today as I was about to go to class, he was right outside the building. He saw me and the quickly looked down and started walking. What type might he be based on these interactions?

[Red Sky]

He is the weird type of guy.

[idealistichick]

He is the weird type of guy.

i heard that soo many times already..but knowing his sociotype would help

[aestrivex]

So me and my guy made out about 3 weeks ago and nothing has changed between us. We haven't really discussed where our relationship was at. So I got sick of waiting to see what's going on between us and everytime I questioned him he would just "hmm" and ignore them. For some reason he can't look me in the face but he is normal with everyone else. So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls. I told "I don't give a shit and I don't feel like answering". So then he said ok and hung up. I called him back asking him why he hung up on me. He said that I was acting "stupid" and I told him to call me when he's not being so mean. Today as I was about to go to class, he was right outside the building. He saw me and the quickly looked down and started walking. What type might he be based on these interactions?

it does sound like Fe polr is a possibility, but all of this evidence is very dubious because the interactions that you've documented here are very limited. you aren't really describing anything in any depth needed to type this guy; merely telling us the very basic outline of what happened is not going to be sufficient.

[aut0]

So me and my guy made out about 3 weeks ago and nothing has changed between us. We haven't really discussed where our relationship was at. So I got sick of waiting to see what's going on between us and everytime I questioned him he would just "hmm" and ignore them. For some reason he can't look me in the face but he is normal with everyone else. So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls. I told "I don't give a shit and I don't feel like answering". So then he said ok and hung up. I called him back asking him why he hung up on me. He said that I was acting "stupid" and I told him to call me when he's not being so mean. Today as I was about to go to class, he was right outside the building. He saw me and the quickly looked down and started walking. What type might he be based on these interactions?

I do that when a girl makes me nervous and I have too many things to going on in my head (the looking away, and trying to get away from you), you make him nervous, that's pretty obvious. He still likes you, or he decided that you don't like him, so he's minimizing the risk being around you poses to him.

Just read this:

So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls. I told "I don't give a shit and I don't feel like answering". So then he said ok and hung up.

He could also be playing you, fair warning

[zenbrat]

So me and my guy made out about 3 weeks ago and nothing has changed between us. We haven't really discussed where our relationship was at. So I got sick of waiting to see what's going on between us and everytime I questioned him he would just "hmm" and ignore them. For some reason he can't look me in the face but he is normal with everyone else. So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls. I told "I don't give a shit and I don't feel like answering". So then he said ok and hung up. I called him back asking him why he hung up on me. He said that I was acting "stupid" and I told him to call me when he's not being so mean. Today as I was about to go to class, he was right outside the building. He saw me and the quickly looked down and started walking. What type might he be based on these interactions?

The type that's getting very tired of this drama, very quickly (oh, and Socionics: ESTp, Enneagram 7w8). They will try their best to coast through difficult times and nudge you back to a stable, fun relationship - but if you keep bitching, they will just sort of... fade away.

The comment about talking to a lot of girls was a warning.

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[Ezra]

He's not weird at all. He's simply a little insecure, and he's an irrational. Most likely IP.

You won't understand him, onetree, because you're probably near enough his conlictor. Maybe Benefactor.

[idealistichick]

Thank you for your responses. Here is some info to help you guys type him:
He consistently goes from one group to the next. He doesn't stay around for too long. He doesn't respond with more than one word in a conversation. When we are talking on the phone and its silent he begins to sing. He didn't want to come by our group because it was loud and he said that he likes to hang out with no more than 3 people at a time.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

[aut0]

Thank you for your responses. Here is some info to help you guys type him:
He consistently goes from one group to the next. He doesn't stay around for too long. He doesn't respond with more than one word in a conversation. When we are talking on the phone and its silent he begins to sing. He didn't want to come by our group because it was loud and he said that he likes to hang out with no more than 3 people at a time.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

Kind of sounds ISTP.

[aestrivex]

Thank you for your responses. Here is some info to help you guys type him:
He consistently goes from one group to the next. He doesn't stay around for too long. He doesn't respond with more than one word in a conversation. When we are talking on the phone and its silent he begins to sing. He didn't want to come by our group because it was loud and he said that he likes to hang out with no more than 3 people at a time.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

this is not remotely useful information. this is random trivia with no backing as to what kind of person he is.

[aestrivex]

random? are you suggesting ESFj is no less likely than ISTp at this point?

no. however many of the individual tidbits would seem to support that.

[xyz]

It's not him, it's you honey.

[Ezra]

Thank you for your responses. Here is some info to help you guys type him:
He consistently goes from one group to the next. He doesn't stay around for too long. He doesn't respond with more than one word in a conversation. When we are talking on the phone and its silent he begins to sing. He didn't want to come by our group because it was loud and he said that he likes to hang out with no more than 3 people at a time.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

Kind of sounds ISTP.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Ezra]

this is not remotely useful information. this is random trivia with no backing as to what kind of person he is.

Incorrect. Clearly he is concerned with Si.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

Although I could've misinterpreted it; it could be Se.

[Blaze]

Thank you for your responses. Here is some info to help you guys type him:
He consistently goes from one group to the next. He doesn't stay around for too long. He doesn't respond with more than one word in a conversation. When we are talking on the phone and its silent he begins to sing. He didn't want to come by our group because it was loud and he said that he likes to hang out with no more than 3 people at a time.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

Kind of sounds ISTP.

I was thinking the same thing.

yep. me too. that'd be your conflict, too.

[idealistichick]

Thank you for your responses. Here is some info to help you guys type him:
He consistently goes from one group to the next. He doesn't stay around for too long. He doesn't respond with more than one word in a conversation. When we are talking on the phone and its silent he begins to sing. He didn't want to come by our group because it was loud and he said that he likes to hang out with no more than 3 people at a time.

When he was wrestling in high school, he was very strict on his diet and would constantly exercise to maintatin his weight and its still a huge part of him. He was very dedicated to the sport to the point where he broke up up with his ex for it. I went to one of his matches once where he loest and kept explaining the reason for the loss and he kept emphasizing the fact that he beat the same guy over and over again.

this is not remotely useful information. this is random trivia with no backing as to what kind of person he is.

hey niffweed wat information do you need so that you can type him?

[aestrivex]

hey niffweed wat information do you need so that you can type him?

well, for one thing, you describe him in a very basic and concrete manner. saying things like "he is very committed to sports. sometimes he likes singing. he eats pickles. he resembles AA batteries in the same way that chickens resemble ink cartridges" is not helpful and does not give a very good impression of who he is.


you do have some information that might be potentially useful. for example, you say that he enjoys sports and doesn't talk much. well, that might tend to point to an ST, Fe polr type. but its very circumstancial information; by no means are STs the only types that enjoy participating in sports or are Fe polr types the only types that tend to be rather taciturn. this is why the information here is really not very useful.

if you could describe who he is as a person in more detail, describing in more depth how and why he does what he does, that would perhaps be more useful.

[idealistichick]

IDK if this helps but here's a quote from his facebook: "If you do not believe in yourself there is no way that anyone can believe in you. Always keep your head up because everything happens for a reason." He always comes by and says hi to basically everyone. He's not afraid to ask me about a girl that he's interested in. At the same time he's very secretive when it comes to his personal life. He's admitted to me that he used to purposely flirt with a girl I knew when we were going out so that she would come tell me. He has these moments where he apoligized for the way he treated me for going out. After that we would begin talking normally for a long time, and then out of no where he would apologize again. He's afraid of getting back together due to his fear of us both getting hurt in the process. He is a big flirt. When he gets angry he pretty much can't be calmed down. He's very loyal to his friends but he's mentioned feeling left out of place.

I really dont know if this information is good enough but its what I can think of for now.

[idealistichick]

flirty game-playing? i think that makes a Te type less likely and puts ITj in the ballpark now. he could even be your dual. (his facebook quote sounds like positivism + Ni HA to me.)

what happens when he gets angry?

i still think some types, for example an EFj, are still and always have been very unlikely. (before niffweed gives me an "I TOLD YOU SO!!")

When he gets angry he confronts the person that he's mad at and doesn't back down easily.

[aestrivex]

i still think some types, for example an EFj, are still and always have been very unlikely. (before niffweed gives me an "I TOLD YOU SO!!")

yeah; thats true, but the information provided is so incongruous and provides so poor a picture of this guy as a whole that differentiating between something like SLI/SLE is rather impossible.

[idealistichick]

When he gets angry he confronts the person that he's mad at and doesn't back down easily.

interesting.. so what finally does get him to calm down?

Other people have to tell him to calm down and if I'm there he'll just give me an embarassed look. He is very overprotective over his relatives and friends and will do anything to defend them.

[Kristiina]

some of it, especially phone conversations, reminds me of my ISxp ex. Could be ISxp.

[force my hand]

IDK if this helps but here's a quote from his facebook: "If you do not believe in yourself there is no way that anyone can believe in you. Always keep your head up because everything happens for a reason." He always comes by and says hi to basically everyone. He's not afraid to ask me about a girl that he's interested in. At the same time he's very secretive when it comes to his personal life. He's admitted to me that he used to purposely flirt with a girl I knew when we were going out so that she would come tell me. He has these moments where he apoligized for the way he treated me for going out. After that we would begin talking normally for a long time, and then out of no where he would apologize again. He's afraid of getting back together due to his fear of us both getting hurt in the process. He is a big flirt. When he gets angry he pretty much can't be calmed down. He's very loyal to his friends but he's mentioned feeling left out of place.

I really dont know if this information is good enough but its what I can think of for now.

Doesn't sound like a thinking type.

[UDP]

So me and my guy made out about 3 weeks ago and nothing has changed between us. We haven't really discussed where our relationship was at. So I got sick of waiting to see what's going on between us and everytime I questioned him he would just "hmm" and ignore them. For some reason he can't look me in the face but he is normal with everyone else. So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls. I told "I don't give a shit and I don't feel like answering". So then he said ok and hung up. I called him back asking him why he hung up on me. He said that I was acting "stupid" and I told him to call me when he's not being so mean. Today as I was about to go to class, he was right outside the building. He saw me and the quickly looked down and started walking. What type might he be based on these interactions?

This doesn't say much about his type.

It seems to imply he is young, still in high school or similar.

[idealistichick]

i give up

[UDP]

I better just not say anything and leave

[implied]

IDK if this helps but here's a quote from his facebook: "If you do not believe in yourself there is no way that anyone can believe in you. Always keep your head up because everything happens for a reason." He always comes by and says hi to basically everyone. He's not afraid to ask me about a girl that he's interested in. At the same time he's very secretive when it comes to his personal life. He's admitted to me that he used to purposely flirt with a girl I knew when we were going out so that she would come tell me. He has these moments where he apoligized for the way he treated me for going out. After that we would begin talking normally for a long time, and then out of no where he would apologize again. He's afraid of getting back together due to his fear of us both getting hurt in the process. He is a big flirt. When he gets angry he pretty much can't be calmed down. He's very loyal to his friends but he's mentioned feeling left out of place.

I really dont know if this information is good enough but its what I can think of for now.

Doesn't sound like a thinking type.

err, why not? manipulation?

[force my hand]

IDK if this helps but here's a quote from his facebook: "If you do not believe in yourself there is no way that anyone can believe in you. Always keep your head up because everything happens for a reason." He always comes by and says hi to basically everyone. He's not afraid to ask me about a girl that he's interested in. At the same time he's very secretive when it comes to his personal life. He's admitted to me that he used to purposely flirt with a girl I knew when we were going out so that she would come tell me. He has these moments where he apoligized for the way he treated me for going out. After that we would begin talking normally for a long time, and then out of no where he would apologize again. He's afraid of getting back together due to his fear of us both getting hurt in the process. He is a big flirt. When he gets angry he pretty much can't be calmed down. He's very loyal to his friends but he's mentioned feeling left out of place.

I really dont know if this information is good enough but its what I can think of for now.

Doesn't sound like a thinking type.

err, why not? manipulation?

At face value, it sounds like some sort of ethical reasoning. Why can't someone 'believe in you' if you don't 'believe in yourself'. Who hasn't been disappointed in someone for that very reason? The two are not mutually exclusive - it happens all the time. 'Everything happens for a reason' - yeah, not because some higher power or fate intervened, but simply as a function of cause and effect. Romanticizing these concepts does not suggest a thinking type, at least in my mind. One might say, "yeah, but it's a weak expression of feeling" - but what concrete thinker - male even - is going to make such statements without evaluating them? I suppose I could see this from a non-intellectual EP who's trying to appear profound but is more comfortable with driving or shooting things.

He also acts really moody with respect to his relations with others. If I understand my type correctly, I prefer to draw a line quickly - just 'friends'? Committed relationship? - and stick with it, revisiting it as seldomly as possible (preferably never, though that's clearly unrealistic). This guy's all over the map - sounds like a shitty dude, no offense.

...

On second glance, however, I'm wondering if we're getting an account that's been passed through the ENFj lense. Something that bothered me in the OP:

So anway about an hour later he asked me if i think he talks to alot of girls.

Who says this? Or, more specifically, what does it mean? A key piece of context is missing here - I'm not sure exactly what is the right inferrence to make. I think it's a function of the way the situation was filtered as opposed to a coherent account of what specifically happened. This leads me to question the objectivity of anything else onetree posted. I'm not trying to be a dink by criticizing her description, just showing my thought process.

[UDP]

I better just not say anything and leave

looks like she beat you to it champ. that happen a lot?

What are you talking about?


(She edited her post 3 minutes after I wrote mine, for the record.)
Still not sure what you are saying, though.


Also for the record, I was just going to tear the guy up for being a poor example of a man. But I decided against it because she seems "attached", or what have you.

[eliphalet]

Okay, onetree said to give my impression of him... I doubt any of it will really help socionics-wise, but here's some tidbits...

At first he seems kinda dull, he doesn't talk a lot, kinda like makes one line remarks in a mumbly way and then drifts off. So maybe he is sorta in his head. I think he finds me annoying cause I act childish, and maybe I was being a bit obnoxious towards him trying to get some reaction. But he just sits there and shakes his head disapprovingly.

I think their last relationship ended because he thought onetree was too clingy?? They get kinda awkward round each other from what I can see. Seems conflictory. How is activity supposed to be like?

I'm like pretty sure of ISTp, but onetree and other INFp friend are disagreeing with me thinking ESTp... I highly doubt he's beta or my dual.

Well there you have another opinion...

[Garmonbozia]

Vocabulary Words:

Social group

Making-out

Girls

Class

Locker

Like

[Garmonbozia]

Discovery: oh my, I think onetreehilluver is Older than me.

[Khamelion]

young isfj?

[idealistichick]

Discovery: oh my, I think onetreehilluver is Older than me.

you and your comments are useless