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    This thread may stir up some controversy, but I will go ahead anyways.
    In your personal opinion, which types do you believe to be the most intelligent? Personally, I believe that there is no "most intelligent" type, yet I do believe that some types are in general slightly more intelligent then others, or at least are perceived by most people as more intelligent.

    Again, there is no objectivity to this, I simply want personal opinions. If you were to create a list (from most to least intelligent) what would it be? Also, as previously indicated, if you (as I am sure many do) do not believe that certain types are more intelligent than others in general, then list those which you at least believe to appear most intelligent.
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    4. Thinking geniuses, most likely, - this is the aggravated, maximum version of dialectical- algorithmic intellect. Its uniqueness consists in the free game of mind, the indefatigable imagination, the daring synthesis of oppositions. Practically always it accompanies [negativistskaya] with respect to the public opinion position. Mysticism frequently is present. But if western [tipologi] consider that the brilliant thinkers belonged to the type OR, then my opinion - to [EIE]. The unbalanced nervous system, is hotter heart and the [myatushchiysya], overfilled by associative means reason - here is that material, from which nature models geniuses.
    INTp's and ENFj's according to this bit of Gulenko's article.

    "Aggravated, maximum version of dialectical- algorithmic intellect" suggests that there are grades of intensity in which thinking styles appear. That does look a bit odd.

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    Fi leading types will be the most emotionally intelligent. Fes will also be quite adept in emotional intelligence.

    Ni types tend towards extensive intellectual activity, and thus will be the most intellectually intelligent.

    ST types will be the most practically minded, and thus they will be the most practically intelligent.

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    Heh, perceived as most intelligent? I'm going to say that INTps are ENTjs are typically going to be perceived as most intelligent. XSTjs too. And EXFjs perceived as most talented. ESFps can sometimes appear to be talented for no apparent reason.

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    Different intelligences(WORD?!) matter in different cases.

    Case in point, i'm way more intelligent when it comes to hand on and movement, or logical crap.

    But i can handle the fuzzy human social sciences if I can stay awake long enough. Although not as well.

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    .........appear intelligent
    ENTP
    INTP
    INTJ
    INFJ
    ENTJ
    INFP
    ISTJ
    ENFJ
    ENFP
    ESTJ
    ISTP
    ISFJ
    ESTP
    ISFP
    ESFJ
    ESFP
    ...........appear stupid

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    The societal stereotype of intelligence is mostly attached to gamma NT's as far as I'm aware... Alpha NT's are usually thought to be smart and to have unusual talents, but people tend to be more aware of their fallability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat
    The societal stereotype of intelligence is mostly attached to gamma NT's as far as I'm aware... Alpha NT's are usually thought to be smart and to have unusual talents, but people tend to be more aware of their fallability.
    And due to their greater concern of pursuing their interests, Alpha NTs are sometimes viewed of course as being "impractical" and "wasted potential."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno
    .........appear intelligent
    ENTP
    INTP
    INTJ
    INFJ
    ENTJ
    INFP
    ISTJ
    ENFJ
    ENFP
    ESTJ
    ISTP
    ISFJ
    ESTP
    ISFP
    ESFJ
    ESFP
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    ...........appear stupid
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    ^hahaha...
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno
    .........appear intelligent
    ENTP
    INTP
    INTJ
    INFJ
    ENTJ
    INFP
    ISTJ
    ENFJ
    ENFP
    ESTJ
    ISTP
    ISFJ
    ESTP
    ISFP
    ESFJ
    ESFP
    ...........appear stupid
    Agree for the most part.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat
    Alpha NT's are usually thought to be smart and to have unusual talents, but people tend to be more aware of their fallability.
    What precisely defines "unusual" in this context? What would be an example of these so-called unusual talents?
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    ta ai'a a;

    ne i'a a we a;

    saz a lo'az wanasa'a'i'a;

    ko i'a wa ta ra'a ey; ko in wei a so lo'a;

    zgoza'i a:

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    ^Is that a language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    ^Is that a language?
    zgo'a a wana'i;

    ko a iwa alo'e i;

    tiwo sa nu wi'e lo gala'e wa;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    ^Is that a language?
    zgo'a wara ia'a to;

    namo a sala'a iwe si;

    naz a ave'a mei i yi'u o'eta;

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    i think it's a native american language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    i think it's a native american language.
    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    i think it's a native american language.
    why?
    i just kinda recognize it having seen it a couple of times before.

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    Wait, the thread title says talented and we're talking intelligence, wtf?

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    IJ = smartest

    EP = dumbest

    Ti = smart

    Te = dumb

    Ne = smart

    Se = dumb

    (this isn't to say that it's the way things are, just the way things are perceived at first interaction)

    So INTj smartest, ESFp most stupid.

    Not systematic, but generally an highly extraverted person will be perceived as stupid, too.
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    I think it also depends on who is doing the perceiving...

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    But if western [tipologi] consider that the brilliant thinkers belonged to the type OR, then my opinion - to [EIE].
    Does he mean Hitler? I often wonder if Gulenko really does misunderstand the West, or if he's just playing to the general atmosphere in the East.

    People who see the world as primarily logical are perceived as more intelligent by most. Mere awareness of logic implies intellect, as does the ability to set a logic into motion. Such people can deduce the effects of perception on logical decisions made.

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    Its uniqueness consists in the free game of mind, the indefatigable imagination, the daring synthesis of oppositions.
    He's speaking of the transcendent and immanent functions here. Those who have the courage/strength/inner-drive to create a controversial position are perceived as more intelligent than those who follow after the same; people who can integrate these positions into the mainstream acquire influence, and so are regarded as more intelligent still. Mikhail Gorbechov, for example, is considered by most to be more intelligent than the "average" INTj who clocks a 9 to 5 job troubleshooting routine computer issues, despite the latter's attention to logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    I think Gamma SFs are usually perceived as being very intelligent, actually.
    Preface: I (obviously) agree that INTps are the smartest, because we are

    Reply: No. Gamma SFs are, as previously stated, are the stupidest. Have you ever met a Gamma SF??? SF is like, the most useless (dumbest) functional combination ever; processing life based on a linear function of feeling is totally inefficient, and causes a lot of stress in fulfilling obligations/deadlines. Gamma SFs may be dumb as hell, but they are very, very talented when it comes to anything artsy (film and poetry especially), IME.
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    OMG. Seriously, are we that lacking of retarded threads??
    This whole thread is becoming WORSE with every post.

    Gamma SFs stupid? Load of crap IMO. My 3 closest friends are ESFps and they are NOT dumb. Not all alpha NTs are that smart either.

    Urgh. Seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    i think it's a native american language.
    why?
    i just kinda recognize it having seen it a couple of times before.
    good job; its completely made up gibberish.

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    IJ = smartest
    EP = dumbest
    It depends. IJ looks up to EP and EP looks up to IJ. The same with EJ/IP.

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    This entire thread is full of idiocy. Please just stop contributing to what amounts to nothingness.
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    Logos: hehehhehe

    I think its very interesting, what was in the material referenced by labcoat, because it does touch on the aspect of genius/intelligence (slightly different definitions but similar) that has to do with inner passion. I've said before, though maybe not on this forum, that desire seems to play a part in intelligence. Actually i think i said this in the chat. This also reminds me of a recent post Expat made about that dude who didn't know that la lune orbits the earth, that a lack of knowledge and its application indicates lack of curiosity, some sort of drive. yadda yadda yadda. it's very interesting to me.

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    I honestly agree with Mia here. I mean c'mon, people can appear to be very intelligent, and once you actually sit down and talk with them you'll realize they're fulla shit. it also depends on the damn perceiver.

    I just think this is mental masturbation for the NT fuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drd252
    Reply: No. Gamma SFs are, as previously stated, are the stupidest. Have you ever met a Gamma SF??? SF is like, the most useless (dumbest) functional combination ever; processing life based on a linear function of feeling is totally inefficient, and causes a lot of stress in fulfilling obligations/deadlines. Gamma SFs may be dumb as hell, but they are very, very talented when it comes to anything artsy (film and poetry especially), IME.
    Rubbish.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by drd252
    Reply: No. Gamma SFs are, as previously stated, are the stupidest. Have you ever met a Gamma SF??? SF is like, the most useless (dumbest) functional combination ever; processing life based on a linear function of feeling is totally inefficient, and causes a lot of stress in fulfilling obligations/deadlines. Gamma SFs may be dumb as hell, but they are very, very talented when it comes to anything artsy (film and poetry especially), IME.
    Rubbish.
    Oh come on, you can't just say "rubbish," and leave it at that; surely my reply isn't the ONLY one that deserves that ruling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    Quote Originally Posted by drd252
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    I think Gamma SFs are usually perceived as being very intelligent, actually.
    Reply: No. Gamma SFs are, as previously stated, are the stupidest. Have you ever met a Gamma SF??? SF is like, the most useless (dumbest) functional combination ever; processing life based on a linear function of feeling is totally inefficient, and causes a lot of stress in fulfilling obligations/deadlines. Gamma SFs may be dumb as hell, but they are very, very talented when it comes to anything artsy (film and poetry especially), IME.


    No, I don't think this even deserves a response.
    Yet, you took the time to quote, AND reply. WEIRD
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    well, thanks for being constructive

    /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    OMG. Seriously, are we that lacking of retarded threads??
    This whole thread is becoming WORSE with every post.

    Gamma SFs stupid? Load of crap IMO. My 3 closest friends are ESFps and they are NOT dumb. Not all alpha NTs are that smart either.

    Urgh. Seriously.
    True. I had similar observations as well. I don't think talented people belong to any specific type. If Gamma SFs aren't smart and intelligent, how can they be Gamma NTs' duals? What a silly thread this has deteriorated into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    OMG. Seriously, are we that lacking of retarded threads??
    This whole thread is becoming WORSE with every post.

    Gamma SFs stupid? Load of crap IMO. My 3 closest friends are ESFps and they are NOT dumb. Not all alpha NTs are that smart either.

    Urgh. Seriously.
    True. I had similar observations as well. I don't think talented people belong to any specific type. If Gamma SFs aren't smart and intelligent, how can they be Gamma NTs' duals? What a silly thread this has deteriorated into.
    if any SF's are dumb it's Alpha SF's that are generic and unoriginal and need to resort to basically sacrificing themselves to others in order to prove their worth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    ... I think you just demonstrated that you don't value .
    haha was it that obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orest Reinn
    IJ = smartest
    EP = dumbest
    It depends. IJ looks up to EP and EP looks up to IJ. The same with EJ/IP.
    I wasn't saying that it's the way things are, just the way things are perceived by a given subject at first contact with an EP or IJ. In any case, most people perceived as intelligent are boring, so you should be proud of not being so!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Orest Reinn
    IJ = smartest
    EP = dumbest
    It depends. IJ looks up to EP and EP looks up to IJ. The same with EJ/IP.
    I wasn't saying that it's the way things are, just the way things are perceived by a given subject at first contact with an EP or IJ. In any case, most people perceived as intelligent are boring, so you should be proud of not being so!
    wow this is a really dumb thread but if we're going there...why not?

    i think IP's are most intelligent and EJ's are the least intelligent. If we're talking in terms of "what does intelligence mean" this makes sense.
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    I'm officially joining the camp of "this thread is bullshit"; go fuck yourselves.
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