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I await type suggestions for this woman. I find her views to put it mildly,very hard to deal with. I want to say ESFj for her but...
HATE HER HATE HER HATE HER.
I'll show you a biological error, BITCH.
Dr. Laura versus Bullets!
Dr. Laura: Oh look a little puny fag. Shouldn't you be behind some obnoxious fat person being emo and feeling sorry for yourself?
Sam: Not anymore, bitch! In this show, gay men can be in power too!
Dr. Laura: Haha that's cute. BUT IF YOU THINK THIS IS GONNA LAST TWO SECONDS...
Sam: I notice your talking. Whereas if I was in your position, I'd be attacking me.
Dr. Laura: I'M NOT YOUR CONFLICTOR JUST BECAUSE WE HATE EACH OTHER!!!!
Sam automatically wins cause he's cooler.
oops I just gave my real name on these forums. oopsie daisies. Oh well.
I like Dr. Laura. She's discerning, intelligent, respectable, and tells it like it is - which most Americans dislike, especially after all the talk show brainwashing that's gone on over the last couple decades in this pathetic culture.
She's not ESFj. I'll watch the videos and try to type her ...
You know what's hilarious? She goes on about how women should be traditionally submissive to men, but then again she has a personality of a rowdy, tough diesel dyke.
God, wouldn't you love to see her and rosie just go at it? ROFLMAO. Womyn Power vs. Anti-Womyn power.
(yeah I agree ESFj makes sense btw) Though I feel sorry for ESFjs, now.
Too many people dismiss the idea of "submission" at face value according to its simplest definition rather than examining the dynamics underlying the concept when appropriately applied in the context of a good marriage. The incongruency you perceive, I do not. Which means we have different understandings of what submission is all about.Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves
I wonder if she's an ISTj. (Just a guess.) Hard to tell.
I have no problem with her being submissive, actually. I just think she's STILL being a hypocrite.
There's nothing wrong with just wanting to be under a man and cook and clean for him. Believe me, I KNOW. (and her little phrase about getting over and under, is pretty witty I admit... even though it's beyond cringe-worthy. Please people, stop throwing your straightness in my face, I'm eating!) It's that, she's just as bad as the "feminists" she's against by being too much in the other direction. You can't just throw up on a word and claim what you think it means, because YOU'RE pissed off yourself. She says other people are angry? Look in the mirror sometimes, god.
I don't know what you mean when you use big adult words like 'incoggagaggathroatfuckmyface.' It's clear as day to me that she doesn't have a submissive personality at all. Sometimes a spade is just a spade? Okay if she doesn't have a dominant, overbearing personality than what DOES she have? There is nothing about wanting to submit in her facial structure and demeanor, though she does look fed-up and angry more than anything else.
Keep in mind that there is a difference between submission and being influential. I'm in favor of there being a hierarchical chain of command within a family. The woman might be able to use a lot of influence; many tasks may be delegated to her if she is, eg, innately more talented in those areas; but at the end of the day, it's good to have a final arbiter designated when decisions must be made. That way you reduce the potential for argumentative impasses, etc.Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves
Well influence is naturally a dominant trait to me anyway. Anything that would rather project and give than take in and receive. It's pretty simple. Passive people absorb, take in energy. Dominant people exude and give it away.
She might think she's being passive/submissive by being the 'receptive' person in sex. I have no idea what really goes on in her mind, though remember she was the one that brought up sex here first, not me. But yes, she indeed is a woman and thus always takes the receptive role in sex. Unless she wears a strap-on, what choice does she really have? Contrary to popular belief, feminists don't have penis envy or want to grow cocks. And it's not about sex or not liking the smell of a hot, musky penis. Fox News is blah.
But it's more of an unspoken agreement that works out for both parties not 'OOH YOU'RE MY MASTER I MUST SERVE YOU!' imho. I grew up calling my father sir because I respected him, I didn't want to get UNDER him heavens no.I'm in favor of there being a hierarchical chain of command within a family.
EXACTLY EXACTLY. It isn't about feminism, or homosexuality, or any of those things that Dr. Laura has a hard time with. It's Dr. Laura, and how she needs to find something to hate and look down to in order to make herself feel better. If it isn't the gays, it's the feminists, or the working moms. It's Dr. Laura, and her own shrew-ish, unpleasant attitude.He was doing the same thing in both instances (in my opinion)... I couldn't understand where his "convictions" were coming from, or what force within him was generating them.
Like my cousin Julie says, (in her liberal, california way) she's simply a 'hater.'
Yeah my best female friend says I'm the most complex person she knows....with many layers. It's true that men like blowjobs and beer, but it's not like we don't have a mind and heart as well. Dr. Laura really needs to be neglected by some hunky gay man that isn't interested in her I guess. She's just SO emotionally and mentally immature to me! She seriously has sexual views of an adolescent that has never grown up!I also think that she has rather inappropriately categorized women and men. She really put her foot in her mouth when she said that women are "more complex" than men. That really cracked me up. So very unwise.
I think that's already happened, btw. (the neglected by gay hunk) It's arrogant straight woman like her that make me so annoyed. People just don't like how men can turn down pussy but it happens all the time. She has an unhealthy need for men to view her as a sexual object, hence her posing in nudes. I don't know the solution for that though, actually. We all want people to validate our sexuality. I just can't get turned on by her!
Damn getting a bad rap again? Maybe it's kind of a really warped view of ever thought of that? She seems to be for social "norms" like most people who have hang-ups about homos.
She does leave you with a bitter taste in your mouth.
She reminds me of those nasty street whores with those you know raspy voices and undignified way of speaking.
No offense to nasty street whores, that is.
I can't believe Dr. Laura wants me to be all aggressive and dominant with her. ew ew ew.
She does seem to have some bad issues. When she holds a position she is so stubborn about it and when she does manage to change direction she again stubbornly holds to the new position as if there is no other right position. No balance, no proportion, no real seeing of the point of view of the other side, just extreme black or white morality. Maybe she is ISFj, Bill O'Reilly (who might be ENTj) seems to think she is great or at least it seems he has her on a lot.Originally Posted by hkkmr
you thought so? I thought he didn't really agree with her, but that she was being so ridiculous he thought he'd just let her hang herself. Maybe I misinterpretted (sayith the one who still won't re-watch it but insists on commenting endlessly about it nonetheless).Originally Posted by Megan
He does have her on The Factor quite a bit. When I have seen them interact, by the end of the interview he seems to cave in to her or something. I think if he really found her ideas stupid and annoying he would not have so many debates with her about them.Originally Posted by Loki
I think you are right. Might be one of those victim/aggressor things.Originally Posted by hkkmr
Yeah I don't think anybody is buying the submissive thing at all. It's like when an obviously effeminate gay bottom boy likes to pretend he's "straight acting" and like, he could play football all along, he just chose not to!
Whatever sweet-cheeks, I know a diesel dyke (and queer boy) when I see one!
It's kinda how I make fun of people that think personality is learned, not in-born...which doesn't make any sense you don't exactly see people changing their personality at all!!!!
I think his type might have been debated some time ago in an old thread. People have mentioned ENTj as a possible type for him. I have no firm idea what type he is. I thought he was ESTj at first but I am not sure of this anymore.Originally Posted by Loki