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    1. Which order makes more sense to you? ("Relationship" in this context can mean close friendship as well.)

    • A.) Warmth leads to relationships. I do not feel at ease developing a relationship with someone if there is not already a warm emotional climate between us. If someone treats me in a business like manner, I tend to assume that they are not interested in developing a relationship with me.

      B.) Relationships lead to warmth. I can be friendly, but it makes sense to me to reserve genuine warmth for the people that one is closest to. I'm comfortable with those who treat me in a business like manner, and I don't expect there to warm emotional interactions between myself and another person until/unless a relationship begins to develop.



    2. Which of the following better fits your attitude about money/finances?

    • C.) Financial security creates financial freedom. I would not generally prefer to sacrifice physical comforts to gain future financial success. It is important to me to have a comfortable standard of living, so I do not like to take risks that could negatively impact my lifestyle, even if the potential reward is great. The ability to create and preserve stability in physical comforts and needs is an attractive quality.

      D.) Financial freedom creates financial security. It makes sense to me sacrifice physical comforts in order to gain future financial success. I feel comfortable taking risks that could negatively impact my lifestyle because it is necessary to do so in order to see the type of financial growth I desire. Wisdom in managing risk and reward is an attractive quality.

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    B/C
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    1B 2C
    You don't need someone to be warm with you in order to be confident that they're interested in developing a relationship?

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    well, this isn't overly obvious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    1B 2C
    You don't need someone to be warm with you in order to be confident that they're interested in developing a relationship?
    No. Relationships take time. It takes time to get to really know someone. In the mean time, I'm happy to be upbeat with anyone.
    She asked because she thought B was Gamma/Delta
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    B / C for me also.

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    Anyone who doesn't pick B is a complete tool.
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    Oh? How do Alpha/Beta types feel about this? How might A be improved?

    (Do you prefer C or D Rocky?)

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    nevermind
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    1B 2C

    Wow. That's what everyone chose so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    1B 2C
    You don't need someone to be warm with you in order to be confident that they're interested in developing a relationship?
    No. Relationships take time. It takes time to get to really know someone. In the mean time, I'm happy to be upbeat with anyone.
    Sigh. Carla, you are not INTj.

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    nevermind
    oh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    1B 2C

    Wow. That's what everyone chose so far.
    Well look at who the posters are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    1B 2C
    You don't need someone to be warm with you in order to be confident that they're interested in developing a relationship?
    No. Relationships take time. It takes time to get to really know someone. In the mean time, I'm happy to be upbeat with anyone.
    Sigh. Carla, you are not INTj.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    1B 2C

    Wow. That's what everyone chose so far.
    Well look at who the posters are.
    Joy, only someone out of their mind would pick something other then B/C.
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    I definitely pick D.

    Carla, this is neither the time nor the place.

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    I assumed that, but I never claimed you were sane.
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    Would this sound more attractive?

    "A. Warmth leads to relationships. I believe that a relationship should flow naturally from comfortable interaction with a person, not the other way around. It feels fake or invasive to me when people deliberately try to get to know me instead of letting things develop naturally through warm and familiar emotional interaction."

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    @ Joy
    This test is just hogwash.
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    B/C.

    And I think rocky is right, B/C is the sane man's choice. I think this test is no good.

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    I agree that A doesn't sound like even what a Alpha/Beta would choose. You prefer Fi enough over Fe that you're having trouble writing something attractive to people who prefer Fe.

    How about, "I prefer people to be warm and friendly with me regardless of how close our relationship is. When people I know are businesslike with me, I think it's possible they don't like me."

    Or maybe have an Alpha or Beta person write something because they know what they like.
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    As for C/D, maybe something like this:

    C: I would rather be comfortable now and know I'll be comfortable forever but never have much chance at getting rich.

    D: I would rather have a pretty good chance at getting rich than be comfortable now and know I'll always be comfortable.

    ? . . . I don't know
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    I would choose B and D (with some hesitation). I am reluctant to sacrifice comfort, but I am prepared to take financial risks that would jeopardize my comfort.

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    I was going to put my answer, but I think everybody already knows what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dee
    err.. no?
    Hmm, I'll take a wild stab in the dark and say B/C.

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    1B/2D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    I agree that A doesn't sound like even what a Alpha/Beta would choose. You prefer Fi enough over Fe that you're having trouble writing something attractive to people who prefer Fe.
    Yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    How about, "I prefer people to be warm and friendly with me regardless of how close our relationship is. When people I know are businesslike with me, I think it's possible they don't like me."
    Or, "I prefer it when people in general are warm and friendly. (Real warmth and friendliness too; not fake.) When people that I know very well (and who, in my own mind, I've come to consider as "close" to me) are suddenly businesslike with me, I think they're being arses."
    This sounds better.

    Oh, and I'd have picked D, even in Joy's original version, which probably can be better phrased.
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    A and D.
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    Okay, I'll reword them and start a new thread.

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    Before I read responses...

    My predilections: A/C
    socio: INFp - IEI
    ennea: 4w5 sp/sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    • A.) Warmth leads to relationships. I do not feel at ease developing a relationship with someone if there is not already a warm emotional climate between us. If someone treats me in a business like manner, I tend to assume that they are not interested in developing a relationship with me.
    • Quote Originally Posted by Joy
      D.) Financial freedom creates financial security. It makes sense to me sacrifice physical comforts in order to gain future financial success. I feel comfortable taking risks that could negatively impact my lifestyle because it is necessary to do so in order to see the type of financial growth I desire. Wisdom in managing risk and reward is an attractive quality.
    I must be insane then but I'd pick A and D.

    Some comments...

    I don't automatically assume that very serious and businesslike people do not want to establish relationship with me but these kind of people make me a bit paranoid. I keep second guessing whether they are trying to distance themselves from me or whether they just warm up slower. I also feel that I can't trust people who are too serious and distant and seem to want to stay that way. So I prefer people who are instantly very casual and friendly even in seemingly "serious" situations and with total strangers. I can be patient with other kind of people too but eventually they have to "open up". I can make some effort to make them open up if they seem responsive in any way. Personally I am rather responsive to other people's efforts if they are not too much "in your face". Pushing me with too much "energy" can make me "choke" and close down a bit.

    D is less clear as I am not really a big risk taker in financial matters. I am more into gradually increasing and optimizing your finances. Despite that I chose D because I am willing and able to reduce my physical comforts to a bare minimum in order to gain long term financial success. I thought that is a more important distinction than the risk taking part.

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    XoX that might be the most helpful stuff you've ever written in regard to finding your type. You seriously value Fe and you are not concerned about Si.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    I agree that A doesn't sound like even what a Alpha/Beta would choose. You prefer Fi enough over Fe that you're having trouble writing something attractive to people who prefer Fe.

    How about, "I prefer people to be warm and friendly with me regardless of how close our relationship is. When people I know are businesslike with me, I think it's possible they don't like me."

    Or maybe have an Alpha or Beta person write something because they know what they like.
    I don't prefer warm and friendly from everyone. That can feel really creepy. Not everyone is capable of genuine warmth. It's nice when someone does that naturally and yes, it does make me more inclined to feel at ease with them. Businesslike is cold. Bleh. I look for signs of emotional rapport as reassurance that I'm not the only one making an effort. If those signs aren't forthcoming, I may take it personally (depending on my own mood).

    To be comfortable in a friendship/relationship, I need to be convinced it's reciprocal.
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    Based on dee, I'm pippin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Some comments...

    I don't automatically assume that very serious and businesslike people do not want to establish relationship with me but these kind of people make me a bit paranoid. I keep second guessing whether they are trying to distance themselves from me or whether they just warm up slower. I also feel that I can't trust people who are too serious and distant and seem to want to stay that way. So I prefer people who are instantly very casual and friendly even in seemingly "serious" situations and with total strangers. I can be patient with other kind of people too but eventually they have to "open up". I can make some effort to make them open up if they seem responsive in any way. Personally I am rather responsive to other people's efforts if they are not too much "in your face". Pushing me with too much "energy" can make me "choke" and close down a bit.
    Precisely. Wish I'd seen this before I posted. Serious and distant always seems like too much work to get to know. I imagine I'd always be the emotional standard bearer and I really hate that.
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    B and C
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    By the way, financial risk-taking behaviors seem to be associated with:

    Ep
    E > I
    p > j
    Young > nearing retirement
    and a number of other non-type-related things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    By the way, financial risk-taking behaviors seem to be associated with:

    Ep
    E > I
    p > j
    Young > nearing retirement
    and a number of other non-type-related things
    Totally right. If I had answered this in my 20s, I definitely would have answered D. But now I have three kids and am feeling much less like sacrificing my comfort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    B & D.

    I personally think that D is the sane option, thank you very much.
    I never claimed to be sane!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    XoX that might be the most helpful stuff you've ever written in regard to finding your type. You seriously value Fe and you are not concerned about Si.
    Yes.

    Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    B & D.

    I personally think that D is the sane option, thank you very much.
    I never claimed to be sane!
    It wasn't directed at you -- I imagine that if I had 3 children I would also be less inclined to take risks (but not for my comfort).
    When we first got married, my husband and I lived in a teeny apartment and saved my entire salary and I used to spend a lot of time investing and researching stocks, etc (this was the 90s you know:-). Funny how time has changed me!
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    The problem here is defining "risk". What seems "risky" to other people doesn't seem risky to me. I'm not a gambler. I just know that if you do your homework and are bold, you will win more times than you lose, which means that you are successful overall. You can't get ahead if you're afraid of failure. I can afford to have this mindset because my cost of living is low. Even in the worst case outcome of whatever venture or project or goal I have going, I could still manage to scrape by for a little while until I turned things around. I don't mind taking that "risk" in order to accomplish my financial objectives, because to me it's not really a risk. Playing Russian Roulette is risky. Having a high cost of living or high consumer debt when you're depending on the income from your job is risky. Counting on the government or a company to pay for your retirement is what I would consider truly risky. A lot of people consider those things the safe route though (besides Russian Roulette, of course ).

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