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    Default SLE/ESTp description of Extraverted Sensing Se

    Extraverted Sensing occurs when we become aware of what is in the physical world in rich detail. We may be drawn to act on what we experience to get an immediate result. We notice relevant facts and occurrences in a sea of data and experiences, learning all the facts we can about the immediate context or area of focus and what goes on in that context. An active seeking of more and more input to get the whole picture may occur until all sources of input have been exhausted or something else captures our attention. Extraverted Sensing is operating when we freely follow exciting physical impulses or instincts as they come up and enjoy the thrill of action in the present moment. A oneness with the physical world and a total absorption may exist as we move, touch, and sense what is around us. The process involves instantly reading cues to see how far we can go in a situation and still get the impact we want or respond to the situation with presence.

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    This is by no means a complete picture of Se. It simply shows how while Se is partly about power and telling people to 'fuck off' or 'do this' when it is necessary, there are other elements involved.

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    It seems kinda like the usual shallow profile, as in it talks a lot but really doesn't say much of what it's all about. It doesn't really ring a bell with me, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
    It seems kinda like the usual shallow profile, as in it talks a lot but really doesn't say much of what it's all about. It doesn't really ring a bell with me, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
    I think what you guys are doing is leaping directly from the idea of the function itself to the actions that sometimes occur as a result. However, what you guys don't seem to realize is that always begins as a state of mind before any action actually happens. (Well, that's understandable, considering that most of you at least aren't types, and thus wouldn't understand what it actually feels like.) I'll do my very best to explain what it's like as I'm experiencing it, without being mixed with any other functions (although this might have an unavoidable tinge to it).


    At rest, you're kind of in an observatory state of mind. Everything around you gets registered, no matter if you can touch it, or it's way off in the distant distance. You're subconsciously registering everything that enters your "radar". If everything's good, your sonar stays at a constant rate. Sometimes, particular things will enter your radar that will cause the mental sonar to start beeping a little more rapidly, a little louder, or at an irregular rhythm. When this happens, attention immediately gets directed towards the cause. It may be the presence of a person or thing, the absence of it, or something that's registering as "abnormal". When this happens, the proper action to be taken as a result of it is determined. (After this happens, the action is usually tweaked or outright changed by whatever Ji function you have better control with.) A few examples:

    I'm up in my room, writing this post, and a scratching noise enters into my radar. Immediately, my attention gets diverted from writing this sentence, and I focus solely on the "disturbance". At first, it sounds as if my parents are quietly whispering downstairs. At this point, my tells me to go out and see if this is the case. However, my mother starts talking about something in a louder tone of voice, but my radar picks up the fact that the scratching noise is still happening. decides that if mom's talking louder but the noise is still happening, she can't be whispering stuff to my dad. So I stay here and fine-tune the radar, until it's clear. It was the sound of crickets being muffled through all the closed windows.

    Another scenario is that tomorrow is the first day of school, and I'm going in a bit early. Most likely, no one will be there yet, but my radar will be on the prowl for certain. Each person that comes into my radar is instantly analyzed, and I determine if it's someone cool that I'll want to talk to, someone I want to give a funny look to make them uncomfortable, or someone who is fugly and thus I don't want to even look near them. Whichever category the person lands into gets the corresponding action. Easy.


    Then of course, certain things will enter the radar (or be absent from the radar) that the will want to change. It could simply be an object that needs to be moved somehow, a person that needs a spanking (hah), or just a plain old boring situation that I want to make fun. For the first thing, you can just pick it up and put it somewhere else (self-explanatory). If it's the person that needs a good hard spanking, you can either outright spank them at the next available opportunity, wait until the situation flips into your favor so that you can spank them in the most advantageous manner, or you can trick them into allowing you to spank them. Whichever way would work the best as determined by x function is the action that gets performed. If it's a boring situation, you can do a myriad of different things to change it, so that it works in your favor.


    Edit: And I'd also like to add that sometimes in the absence of any activity, beeps in the radar are actively persued by the as to get things moving. When a lot of you guys think of , this is probably a big aspect of what you're all seing. But remember that is a whole fucking lot more than just that!


    I know this might sound awfully simplistic, but before you all go, "Nuh nuh, is st0opid; it doesn't require any brainpower at all!", just think this: If it were this easy and simplistic, it wouldn't be your role/polr/etc., now would it? :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
    It seems kinda like the usual shallow profile, as in it talks a lot but really doesn't say much of what it's all about. It doesn't really ring a bell with me, at least.
    Funny, what you were saying about Se on Socionix was what I had in mind when I found this.
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    Okay kiddos. More lessons.

    In my experience, this is how works in an SLE:

    SLE's is rhythm. SLE's is tempo.

    SLE's isn't *necessarily* forced rape or gangbangs but it can be I guess.

    SLE's is natural, erotic. It ebs and flows with everything they do. SLE's is a quiet, effective authority. (Remember, ESTps are usually in the shadows just like INFps are, even if they do have a more physical presence.)

    SLE's isn't tense, jerky.

    SLEs talk forceful but understanding. SLEs speech is the most powerful (for an IEI) because it concretely rips through the psychobabble chatter of our misty introverted dreaminess. IEIs 'get over' their psychological neurosis in this fashion. We're drawn to the voice, and we obey.

    IEI lacks this natural tempo in our lives. The keeps us going. Makes us actually accomplish things, and live our lives. And it does it in a way where we can't talk or philosophize our way out of anything. smirks at our attempts to get out of life by using our natural ability to reflect and moralize.

    If we rely on other type's we don't quite get there or appreciate it, because the doesn't mesh well with the other functions. Something is amiss.

    Deep down both have the same essence (Love is always what is beyond duality), even being so physically different. My SLE uncle is like this. We always end up saying the same things about the nature of life, despite having vastly different hobbies & lifestyles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Okay kiddos. More lessons.

    In my experience, this is how works in an SLE:

    SLE's is rhythm. SLE's is tempo.

    SLE's isn't *necessarily* forced rape or gangbangs but it can be I guess.

    SLE's is natural, erotic. It ebs and flows with everything they do. SLE's is a quiet, effective authority. (Remember, ESTps are usually in the shadows just like INFps are, even if they do have a more physical presence.)

    SLE's isn't tense, jerky.

    SLEs talk forceful but understanding. SLEs speech is the most powerful (for an IEI) because it concretely rips through the psychobabble chatter of our misty introverted dreaminess. IEIs 'get over' their psychological neurosis in this fashion. We're drawn to the voice, and we obey.

    IEI lacks this natural tempo in our lives. The keeps us going. Makes us actually accomplish things, and live our lives. And it does it in a way where we can't talk or philosophize our way out of anything. smirks at our attempts to get out of life by using our natural ability to reflect and moralize.

    If we rely on other type's we don't quite get there or appreciate it, because the doesn't mesh well with the other functions. Something is amiss.

    Deep down both have the same essence (Love is always what is beyond duality), even being so physically different. My SLE uncle is like this. We always end up saying the same things about the nature of life, despite having vastly different hobbies & lifestyles.
    sigh. I love .
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    thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    thank you.
    cute pic of you & dh in your avatar
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    thanks redbaron. it's on our 5th anniversary and i'm 5mos pg with my first.

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    This is nothing more than some random subjective impression and sheds absolutely no light on how the function works - quite the opposite actually. = rhythm and tempo? Yeah, cause it's soo dynamic, right? bleh
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    Hey, B&D, there's more to life than sex. This is not gay bashing. I would say the same thing to an over-sexed straight person. Stop it. Define things in terms of something other than sex. Please.

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    it made complete sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    it made complete sense to me.
    Which is why you're not a beta ST.
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    The only way to be Se is to kill someone. But first you have to gouge their eye out and skull fuck their eye socket. Then you can kill them.

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    Grr. I wasn't talking about sex at all. I said it's not necessarily sex. And I wasn't the one who first oversexualized them. I was actually agreeing with you.

    And if I'm so wrong you didn't provide me with any evidence for it otherwise. If you can give a good arguement, I'm all for it.

    Again this relates to how and work together too. I just don't see how you could misinterpreted what I explained or how could it be wrong. If you want to blame this on my polr you better be sure you understand what that means in the first place. But see, I try to do my homework. Do you?

    Dbmamma actually has real relationships in her real life. Do any of you? Maybe that was a low blow but I'm beginning to wonder. My observations weren't based on incorporeal internet chatter. You just can't say somebody is wrong without providing support for your criticisms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    And if I'm so wrong you didn't provide me with any evidence for it otherwise. If you can give a good arguement, I'm all for it.
    There is no need to disprove an erroneous idea. Stop trying to put the burden on those who disagree with you, when the burden was on you to begin with.
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    There is no need to disprove an erroneous idea. Stop trying to put the burden on those who disagree with you, when the burden was on you to begin with.
    If something is erroneous you have to show me how it's erroneous. Or no, what you're saying doesn't make sense.

    I've already PROVIDED the burden of proof, dumbass. If I'm so wrong, either show me how I'm wrong or shut up. But you're obviously too intellectually lazy to do so.

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    I said SLE's btw. in other types works differently of course. And there is obvious other factors to take into consideration, true. But what I said still holds true.

    And I think dbmamma knows herself more than anybody else, so you guys are just making yourselves look stupid.

    No jokes this time. No alpha jokes to get out of responsibility. I'm clearly right through my own arguements.

    I'm just gonna leave this alone unless I hear some real proof on how wrong I am. Otherwise, have a good day kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I said SLE's btw. in other types works differently of course. And there is obvious other factors to take into consideration, true. But what I said still holds true.

    And I think dbmamma knows herself more than anybody else, so you guys are just making yourselves look stupid.

    No jokes this time. No alpha jokes to get out of responsibility. I'm clearly right through my own arguements.

    I'm just gonna leave this alone unless I hear some real proof on how wrong I am. Otherwise, have a good day kids.
    it's alright sweety. they just have their heads up their asses on this one, if not all of the time. lol i always understand what you mean, btw. sometimes too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Grr. I wasn't talking about sex at all. I said it's not necessarily sex. And I wasn't the one who first oversexualized them. I was actually agreeing with you.
    Dude, my bad.

    And if I'm so wrong you didn't provide me with any evidence for it otherwise. If you can give a good arguement, I'm all for it.

    Again this relates to how and work together too. I just don't see how you could misinterpreted what I explained or how could it be wrong. If you want to blame this on my polr you better be sure you understand what that means in the first place. But see, I try to do my homework. Do you?

    Dbmamma actually has real relationships in her real life. Do any of you? Maybe that was a low blow but I'm beginning to wonder. My observations weren't based on incorporeal internet chatter. You just can't say somebody is wrong without providing support for your criticisms.
    Yeah, I haven't really read much of this thread. I'm just here for shits and giggles. I'm ALPHA remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I said SLE's btw. in other types works differently of course. And there is obvious other factors to take into consideration, true. But what I said still holds true.

    And I think dbmamma knows herself more than anybody else, so you guys are just making yourselves look stupid.

    No jokes this time. No alpha jokes to get out of responsibility. I'm clearly right through my own arguements.

    I'm just gonna leave this alone unless I hear some real proof on how wrong I am. Otherwise, have a good day kids.
    I think anyone with an understanding of the functions can see the inaccuracy of most of what you wrote without me outlining it for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    You always seem to identify with the people in whatever Quadra you just happen to be in at the moment. Strange.
    as far as I know, dbmmama has always been beta. At least for a long while now. Did I miss something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    as far as I know, dbmmama has always been beta. At least for a long while now. Did I miss something?
    um yes lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    She was Gamma a few weeks ago, and Alpha at once point.
    I didn't realize this. k.
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    lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    as far as I know, dbmmama has always been beta. At least for a long while now. Did I miss something?
    I've always BEEN Beta just confused about socionics. And now I don't give a shit about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    I've always BEEN Beta just confused about socionics. And now I don't give a shit about it.
    You always say you don't give a shit once people challenge your current self-typing. And who says you're still not confused now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    You always say you don't give a shit once people challenge your current self-typing. And who says you're still not confused now?
    only me. that's the only person that fucking matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    only me. that's the only person that fucking matters.
    This makes no sense lol, and it seems like a copout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Grr. I wasn't talking about sex at all. I said it's not necessarily sex. And I wasn't the one who first oversexualized them. I was actually agreeing with you.
    B&D, if I could execute a US marine for every time someone made a joke that went right over your head, there would be no USMC left.

    Dbmamma actually has real relationships in her real life. Do any of you? Maybe that was a low blow but I'm beginning to wonder. My observations weren't based on incorporeal internet chatter. You just can't say somebody is wrong without providing support for your criticisms.
    And you're getting caught up in the someone-agreed-with-me-so-I-will-make-claims-that-attempt-to-show-how-she-is-not-like-them syndrome.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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