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A caricatural LSI is French?
Five/Tanzhe
Can't a French be an LSI ?Originally Posted by Five
btw, his wife is an LSI too
Lol I was jokingOriginally Posted by machintruc
Five/Tanzhe
This is another LSI guy, but with a more aggressive style (think of Sarkozy).
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=fwRsAx82eg0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=fcEN-52QOW8[/youtube]
Why LSI are so narrow-minded ? I'll explain you a little :
I = narrow interests = narrow-minded
S = accuracy-oriented = narrow-minded
T = task-oriented = narrow-minded
J = rigidity = narrow-minded
carefreeness = based on "at-hand" things = narrow-minded
obstinacy = interests-based = narrow-minded
positivism = ignoring problems, trusting bureaucratic laws, living on paper = narrow-minded
process = doing things sequentially = narrow-minded
And if, unfortunately, you're LSI, don't take this too personally. LSI can be very cool people - they're just narrow-minded. It's not your fault. This explains, besides, why EII are so narrow-minded too (my sister is EII).
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This thread should be renamed to "Portrait of a caricatural LII".
LII resemble LSI, this is true, but with some differences :Originally Posted by Elf
LSI do things sequentially - LII do things randomly
LSI care more about academic rules than LII
LSI have low social skills, LII have slightly below average
LSI and LII both are "narrow-minded" types, although LII is slightly more open-minded, because of
LSI are more inclined to aggressive or reckless behaviour than LII
LSI are perfectionistic - LII likes order, but is more tolerating
LSI are more autistic than LII
LSI have lower IQ than LII, on average
LSI are more inclined to beat their girlfriend than LII
etc.
I wasn't talking about the resemblance between LII and LSI, my reply was a reference to your posts. Because you don't seem to realise how horribly biased and overgeneralised they are. And what's the point of starting these LSI bashing threads? It's just childish.
Nobody prevents you to caricature LII, it's only that I find caricaturing LSI funnyOriginally Posted by Elf
Hahahaha! Just about everything you've stated above is completely wrong. It's easy to stereotype LSIs as computers, and you've done just that. This is socionic illiteracy LII style. LIIs are on the whole more insecure with themselves than LSI, and you'll find on closer inspection (ie you look beyond people that resemble computers and examine the REAL LSIs) that on average LSIs have higher IQs than LIIs, LSIs have higher social skills (by a country mile) and therefore on the whole less autistic than LIIs and I don't know how the hell you can graft physical assault onto a socionic type.Originally Posted by machintruc
ISTj.
If however you compare LSI women to LII dudes, it's true.Originally Posted by mr_maguoo
[quote="machintruc"]
LSI do things sequentially - LII do things randomly (Little bit)
LSI care more about academic rules than LII (No idea what academic rules mean specifically)
LSI have low social skills, LII have slightly below average (Both have low social skills LSI grate people a little more harshly though)
LSI and LII both are "narrow-minded" types, although LII is slightly more open-minded, because of :Ne: (Could be a little, but LSI can be more open minded if you're not in a direct fight with them and tell them like 12 times..... oh and I love making dollar bets with LSI and LII..... they always seem to have some set information in their heads that's incorrect.)
LSI are more inclined to aggressive or reckless behaviour than LII (Yes on the aggressive part at least)
LSI are perfectionistic - LII likes order, but is more tolerating (These two sentences don't really relate.....if you mean housewise I think LSI probably like a little cleaner house)
LSI are more autistic than LII (Ummmmm....)
LSI have lower IQ than LII, on average (Maybe...... Ne can be helpful on IQ like questions.... think the difference isn't too great though)
LSI are more inclined to beat their girlfriend than LII (Maybe?..... kinda rediculous though, and was covered by the aggressive part.... and if it's in their and societies rules that you don't hit women almost all LSI would not beat their girlfriends)
Suomea
I'm not making generalities, but I have an aunt (LII) which was beaten by his husband (probably LSI). They're now divorced.Originally Posted by Suomea
much more nurture than type related IMOOriginally Posted by machintruc
Good.... cus there are non violent LSI. It just needs to get into their Ti structure that you don't hit women. If it isn't sternly told to them or pushed into their brains hard then some may develop violent tendencies. LSI are definitely more involved in domestic violence problems than LII who have an :Se: POLR I would guess, but the statement you made just wasn't in line really with the rest of your posts which were generalities and this was much more of a specific. Glad you don't think all LSI beat their wives......Originally Posted by machintruc
Suomea
I'm not talking about all LSI, I'm talking about possible caricatures for this type.Originally Posted by Suomea
I'd try to leave wife beating out of the caricature. It's a pretty touchy thing to attribute to people.
There are two main styles of LSI :Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
Style #1 (enneagram 1) :
- cold-minded and perfectionistic (that's why E1 is called "the perfectionist")
- quiet and reliable (I know a LSI-12 guy, which was sometimes called "machine")
- seems to live on paper (that's what I said to the same dude)
- withdrawn loner, especially males
- low social skills, but altruistic, especially when type 12
- when E19 (I know a girl), seeks perfection on things as their natural harmony, may be meticulous
- higher stress tolerance than Style #2 - neutral and stable
- unhealthy LSI-1 are exagerately meticulous, and act like computers
Style #2 (enneagram 8) :
- more expressive, louder voice than than Style #1 (I know a LSI-89 priest)
- withdrawn loner, especially males, like Style #1 (the same priest that recited the breviary alone...)
- friendly and altruistic, like Style #1 (yes, enneagram beginners tend to confuse E8 with E7, E3 or E6)
- more communicating, leading, prefers to speak than to listen
- less meticulous, but still seeks order and organisation (think of Sarkozy)
- on average, seems more "hedonistic" than Style #1
- lower stress tolerance than Style #1 - pessimistic, subject to depression (although less than LSE-8)
- unhealthy LSI-8 are aggressive and capricious, and easily upset
Both styles generate two possible caricatures of LSI. I made the mistake of combining the two styles, which doesn't seem natural.
This is another caricatural amateur video. But this is fiction. The guy is very LSI-ish.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWZLYq4jgc[/youtube]
Based on my experience, I do not see this as typical traits of LSI. Were are you getting your information from?
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It's a stereotype.Originally Posted by Jimbean
I have an aunt which probably had an LSI husband and which beat her.