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    Here are a couple of Queen songs. Do you relate to them? They are seemingly
    very different from each other. Do you think they are both Beta in spirit and
    if not why not? Also do you agree with Freddie Mercury being ENFj?

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLD-7bCtME[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo52T7uKOJU[/youtube]

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    freddie is about as enfj as they come. most of queen's music would epitomize beta as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    freddie is about as enfj as they come. most of queen's music would epitomize beta as well.
    I'm thinking that is the case. However their audience is wider than just Betas I think. So to widen my question (in case non-Betas read this subforum)
    how do you non-Betas relate to these songs? And do you like/dislike them and their message and why?

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    I like the second one better than the first.

    Reminds me of how my brother went through his Queen phase and my favorite was always this one:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ADh8Fs3YdU[/youtube]

    I always found it so theatrical, like a Broadway Musical. Something to be belted out with an accompanying elaborate pantomime to an invisible audience. (Which I usually did).

    I could take or leave Queen. Never owned anything of theirs myself.
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    If I am indeed SLE, then no, I do not relate to Queen. Ever. I despise the band.
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    The first song was alright and you won't catch me dead listining to the second one.

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    How about this one? (I've wanted to ask about this for a while.)

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ijh2Fqd1ZPY[/youtube]

    It seems to match Beta values (as I understand them), but what about you actual Betas? Do ya dig?
    (I'm referring more to the video itself, but include the music if you want.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    freddie is about as enfj as they come. most of queen's music would epitomize beta as well.
    I'm thinking that is the case. However their audience is wider than just Betas I think. So to widen my question (in case non-Betas read this subforum)
    how do you non-Betas relate to these songs? And do you like/dislike them and their message and why?
    i like queen. in a retro kinda way. and freddie went out with class, too.

    ILE

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    2 examples of Beta (EIE-like)

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Fq4SxdI_AU[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZYHmVELJLDg[/youtube]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    How about this one? (I've wanted to ask about this for a while.)

    It seems to match Beta values (as I understand them), but what about you actual Betas? Do ya dig?
    (I'm referring more to the video itself, but include the music if you want.)
    Your video seems more ESE-like...

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    I don't like gruff manly he-man sounding songs.

    I like queen, but I cant say I like those two songs.

    I like these:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMz-wi50ACU[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxbFLYa0_bw[/youtube]

    Don't know what that says for you though.

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    Queen is a little bit too dramatic for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    How about this one? (I've wanted to ask about this for a while.)

    It seems to match Beta values (as I understand them), but what about you actual Betas? Do ya dig?
    (I'm referring more to the video itself, but include the music if you want.)
    Your video seems more ESE-like...
    Si where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    How about this one? (I've wanted to ask about this for a while.)

    It seems to match Beta values (as I understand them), but what about you actual Betas? Do ya dig?
    (I'm referring more to the video itself, but include the music if you want.)
    Your video seems more ESE-like...
    Si where?
    By the absence of ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    How about this one? (I've wanted to ask about this for a while.)

    It seems to match Beta values (as I understand them), but what about you actual Betas? Do ya dig?
    (I'm referring more to the video itself, but include the music if you want.)
    Your video seems more ESE-like...
    Si where?
    By the absence of ...
    Seemed to make up for it with Se overload...

    Anyway, ESE-like or not, I'm still interested as to whether any of you like it...
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    Default Re: Betas do you relate to these songs?

    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Here are a couple of Queen songs. Do you relate to them? They are seemingly
    very different from each other. Do you think they are both Beta in spirit and
    if not why not? Also do you agree with Freddie Mercury being ENFj?
    I love Queen, I can relate to both songs, but more to the first one. My favorite is "Don't Stop Me Now" (I like it more than I relate to it though...).

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58CJih1iYC0[/youtube]

    If I think about people I know who also really like them, my INFp brother, and ENFJ girl and an ENTp guy come to mind.
    So yes, in my experience Queen are beta.
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    Didn't someone say Marilyn Manson was INFp?

    I am always like shocked whenever I hear him speak because I don't know...he always sounds so genuinely compassionate. I know a lot of people try to APPEAR that way but he has like this saintly quality to me that blows all the fuckin INFjs out of the water. I sense that he really does give a shit, and it feels like a breath of fresh air. I would get along with him really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    How about this one? (I've wanted to ask about this for a while.)

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ijh2Fqd1ZPY[/youtube]

    It seems to match Beta values (as I understand them), but what about you actual Betas? Do ya dig?
    (I'm referring more to the video itself, but include the music if you want.)
    OMG, I fucking LOOOOOOOOVE that song!!!!! It's so fun and jumpy and energetic! I also love this one

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlcDwxSa8g0[/youtube]

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    yeah, that song kicks major ass. I like the pop version too...
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzXYK2hEws[/youtube]

    plus there's something amazingly fuckable about Saffron in this video :wink:

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    I have "The Love that Cannot Be" by Dead Can Dance stuck in my head. I love that song. Is it Beta-compatible? It has this sort of melancholy yearning feel to it that really resonates with me.

    I also love the key of C Minor (not saying that song is in it).

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    Dead Can Dance are FUCKING QUALITY.
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    It aint much I'm asking I heard him say
    Gotta find me a future move out of my way
    I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
    I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
    That somehow smells SLE

    The "Who wants to live forever" with
    What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
    From us
    ...
    But touch my tears with your lips
    Touch my world with your fingertips
    And we can have forever
    And we can love forever
    Forever is our today
    That close to IEI territory... heavy on meaning searching....


    I always loved Queen and somehow I always identified with Brian May.

    This song is also close to my heart... due to the meaning...
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-QfLJbEN3k[/youtube]
    "What is love?"
    "The total absence of fear," said the Master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigma
    It aint much I'm asking I heard him say
    Gotta find me a future move out of my way
    I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
    I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
    That somehow smells SLE

    The "Who wants to live forever" with
    What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
    From us
    ...
    But touch my tears with your lips
    Touch my world with your fingertips
    And we can have forever
    And we can love forever
    Forever is our today
    That close to IEI territory... heavy on meaning searching....


    I always loved Queen and somehow I always identified with Brian May.

    This song is also close to my heart... due to the meaning...
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-QfLJbEN3k[/youtube]
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoSpirit
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Here are a couple of Queen songs. Do you relate to them? They are seemingly
    very different from each other. Do you think they are both Beta in spirit and
    if not why not? Also do you agree with Freddie Mercury being ENFj?
    I love Queen, I can relate to both songs, but more to the first one. My favorite is "Don't Stop Me Now" (I like it more than I relate to it though...).

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58CJih1iYC0[/youtube]

    If I think about people I know who also really like them, my INFp brother, and ENFJ girl and an ENTp guy come to mind.
    So yes, in my experience Queen are beta.
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    that nicklback song was OK for the first 15 sec... and then the guuy started singing...
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    that nicklback song was OK for the first 15 sec... and then the guuy started singing...
    I guess... De gustibus non est disputandum
    I focused mainly on the words, the message...
    First time I saw that video clip I almost cried...
    "What is love?"
    "The total absence of fear," said the Master.
    "What is it we fear?"
    "Love," said the Master.

    I chose Love

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    I'm totally obsessed with the latest Snow Patrol album, Eyes Open, in particular the song Open Your Eyes. Dramatic sweeping arrangements, emotive lyrics, a sense of yearning and immediacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigma
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    that nicklback song was OK for the first 15 sec... and then the guuy started singing...
    I guess... De gustibus non est disputandum
    I focused mainly on the words, the message...
    First time I saw that video clip I almost cried...
    I care more about sound then words. The singing can be in an unknown language to me, or simple gibberish, but if done with the right emotion can get the message across better then understandable words sung unconvincingly.
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by sigma
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    that nicklback song was OK for the first 15 sec... and then the guuy started singing...
    I guess... De gustibus non est disputandum
    I focused mainly on the words, the message...
    First time I saw that video clip I almost cried...
    I care more about sound then words. The singing can be in an unknown language to me, or simple gibberish, but if done with the right emotion can get the message across better then understandable words sung unconvincingly.
    also, it seems like you'd like this kind of song?

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=MIKvEuFj_X0[/youtube]
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    also, it seems like you'd like this kind of song?

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=MIKvEuFj_X0[/youtube]
    God no! I mean... I tried to look at it but... WTF? The melodic line is not to my tasting and the message altho it tries to raise awareness is JUST A DEPRESSING FACT! I don't mind seeing ugly facts if in the midst of this ugliness I see beauty, in the midst of hurt and sorrow I see hope and the triumph of GOOD. Think Schindler's List. or... if you want another musical example:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzoNInZ2ClQ[/youtube]

    I think we IEIs like moving messages BUT they should be about POWER! The Power of ONE! just like this one:
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOXOImxK0NA[/youtube]

    Now let me try to guess something you might like, based on the "sound matters" principle.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFoJo7PHdPo[/youtube]
    "What is love?"
    "The total absence of fear," said the Master.
    "What is it we fear?"
    "Love," said the Master.

    I chose Love

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