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    Not everything fits but my general impression is of an ENTj.
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    some books about The Foundation (I think they're called).
    BTW, you refer to the Foundation books by Isaac Asimov. :wink:
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    Not everything fits but my general impression is of an ENTj.
    Wow I read that and it doesn't sound like her to me at all. She isn't optimistic and doesnt' have a "joy of life" but maybe when she was younger she did?

    Also, this part: "He much values human life: a woman of this type, if having to choose the lesser evil, will rather choose to become a single mother than to make an abortion."

    I KNOW my mom would have had an abortion because I remember when I was a teenager her telling me that if I ever got pregnant "out of wedlock" that I should have an abortion so no one would ever know about it. What people think about her is a very very big deal.
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    Well, perhaps others will disagree. But I think that it is misleading to look at specific details in profiles.

    My general impression was of a clearly xNTj person. She could be INTj but I thought ENTj would fit her better.

    I thought some of what you say would suggest ESTj, but on the whole she seems intuitive rather than sensing.

    I understand the "optimistic" bit of ENTjs as having a belief in opportunities rather than being always in an optimistic mood.

    The thing with abortion is too specific and in my opinion meaningless.
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    Something else.

    xNTx types are often seen as "pessimistic" by other types because of their inclination towards anticipation and contingency planning. However, to acknowledge that things may go wrong, and anticipate problems in order to deal with them, is not the same thing as thinking that things will go wrong. :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Something else.

    xNTx types are often seen as "pessimistic" by other types because of their inclination towards anticipation and contingency planning. However, to acknowledge that things may go wrong, and anticipate problems in order to deal with them, is not the same thing as thinking that things will go wrong. :wink:
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    Upon reading some more about them, and looking at the Gamma Quadra discussions about ENTJ, I think you might be right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky
    Upon reading some more about them, and looking at the Gamma Quadra discussions about ENTJ, I think you might be right.
    Your mum sounds cool
    We have some issues, but yeah overall she is pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I understand the "optimistic" bit of ENTjs as having a belief in opportunities rather than being always in an optimistic mood.
    that's how i see it. ENTjs are not always optimistic and as a matter of fact i'd say they're quite moody.
    Yeah, I noticed this part too and I totally agree. Expat, well said!
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    Your Mom sounds more ESTj than ENTj to me. Judging restaurants? With my useless ? I think everything tastes good...

    BTW, I might be not always optimistic, but I'm more optimistic than most people. You cannot judge in absolute terms. Take a rather long interval of time, and see how the sum of all optimistic moments is much higher than the sum of all "bad" moments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Your Mom sounds more ESTj than ENTj to me. Judging restaurants? With my useless ? I think everything tastes good...

    BTW, I might be not always optimistic, but I'm more optimistic than most people. You cannot judge in absolute terms. Take a rather long interval of time, and see how the sum of all optimistic moments is much higher than the sum of all "bad" moments.
    FDG, it might be a different kind of PoLR. I like to say that I eat everything, but actually I'm rather picky about my food. Everything tastes good, but if something tastes even a little bit funny, I'll avoid it at all costs. I can't swallow food that's even a little bit "wrong". Nicky's mother might just have that end of the Si extreme.

    You can't see the difference between comfort and lack of it, I can't handle lack of comfort. I can even see why it's logical for male- ENTjs to be on one side of Si-extreme and female-ENTjs to be on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Your Mom sounds more ESTj than ENTj to me. Judging restaurants? With my useless ? I think everything tastes good...
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    That is exactly what I meant when I said that some of what Nicky said suggested ESTj.

    However, the very strong inclination for science fiction, the given up of religion, and desire to be an actress/director made me think she was more likely intuitive than sensor. IMO this is more important than the restaurant thing.
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    Well I didn't say she was a very good judge of restaurants. LOL. Actually she doesn't make much sense when she does it. One week some restaurant will be the best place she'd ever eaten, and the next week she'll decide it's awful and she'll never go back again. It's hilarious.
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