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    1. Extraverted Sensing

    "To the strong, people listen better when he speaks in a whisper" (Aleksandr Lebed). Force, authority, purposefulness, perseverance and persistence are values that are inherent in representatives of this type. For this very reason they are adept at evaluating force and the "volitional potential" of others as well as themselves. Special attention is focused on those who strive for authority, and Zhukov seeks to avoid being inferior in "volitional initiative". That which occupies Zhukov's attention most is the power relationship in the prevailing social structure and his own power priority. In other words, during Zhukov's entire life the question "who?" or "whom?" dominates, even if subconsciously so, and this is independent of the occupations and interests he has. Entire "volitional sensorika" of Zhukov is examined in the aspect: "either 4 - them or they - me". ("I it was small - me the father" of tyukal ", now I it grew - 4 to his" tyukayu ".)

    For Zhukov, the sensation of their physical force and their own authority have exceptional significance. He respects authority, respects force, respects any hierarchical system, because - in his understanding - there the power arrangement is held to be "correct". Zhukov always tries to have an application within a framework of a predominating system that already exists. This is - the first stage in any undertakings of him, these are its "minimum program", its first purpose. The "volitional" program of Zhukov consists in the sequential achievement of real, rapidly attainable goals by all possible means. ("Purpose it justifies means.") His ultimate goal is to occupy the predominant place in any hierarchy.

    It is not important, whom it is now, by the leader of opposition, by division head or the "commander of asterisk": it always oshchushchayet itself by person, allotted by authority and authorities. Within the framework of the section trusted to it it is invulnerable, it - implicit authority, it - god tsar. Even working in a division as a series employee, Zhukov can within the shortest period influence authorities to whom he is subordinate (sometimes this to him more advantageous than to head the division).

    Organization of primary structures and leadership within these structures is one of the social functions of a representative of this type. Introducing into the system, the search for adherents within the framework of system, introduction into the sphere of the most important influences and most important business interests with the subsequent introduction of there "its people", whose activity Zhukov will check, coordinate at the necessary moment who will be subordinated to him; all this is for nothing else but the creation of his own structure within the framework of the already existent system; the sequential and step-by-step assumption of power by the method of the "gradually compressive iron belt". To the purposes, which do not correspond to final tasks, Zhukov does not exchange. Moreover, he will not give himself to confuse (for example, his oppositional system will interest only in such a case, when it has real chances to take authority. The dissidentskomu motion it will join, if it sees for itself the real and safe possibility to earn "political capital" or the subsequent possibility to head opposition).

    "Sixth position" for Zhukov is absolutely unacceptable - he is most fearful of this above all else, and will attempt by any means necessary to avoid it. Zhukov is not completely capable to request someone about the service: he oshchushchayet himself at this moment by that humbled Therefore it he tries to always so build situation in order to force others to make that which to it is necessary (the method of the "iron belt" in a more minor manifestation). The situation, when him "hold for frayera", is completely unthinkable for Zhukov; this more thann impacts on his pride - it is a crash of his entire program. Impressions are created frequently, what it "zatsiklen" on the concept of respect/disrespect. It constantly and everywhere requires the acknowledgement of his own priority (which by itself is already the sign of his internal uncertainty of himself). The more he internally oshchushchayet itself "six", the greater the attention and respect he requires.

    Zhukov greatly fears dependence; it is the epitome of weakness. He knows how to depend on himself, and this is considered the epitome of force. (He loves to propose his "valuable" services, he loves to be "necessary" person, he knows how "to recollect" the shown service, and he knows how to claim small debt.) Zhukov's constant tendency to assert his authority and to enlarge the region of his influence is dictated not only by his dissatisfied ambitions, but also by the internal requirement to insure himself against a situation whereby he is forced to subordinate to another authority. ("either 4 - it or it - me".)

    Throughout his entire life, Zhukov seemingly pays attention to 'safety factors'. He doesn't simply 'oppress the empty place'; rather he tries to take advantage of opportunities concerning new territory. Thus, if Zhukov is forced to yield anything, it will not have been offensively taken from him; he becomes detached to it. Quality, which is everywhere manifested in representatives of this type, is the seizure of administrative, material and, most importantly, territorial advantages.

    For Zhukov, gaining space or territory is a task of paramount significance. Moreover it is achieved by the most natural and therefore by the not always realised means. Hence, there will be a seizure of excess space in the kitchen or excess meter on the linen rope. Deeply, Zhukov will be dissatisfied if someone other than himself seizes territory. For representatives of this type, to fill space is a very natural state. Frequently, without noticing, Zhukov takes the central space for himself. For example, he might occupy the armchair in the middle of the room, feeling as if he is on a throne, with those surrounding the walls being his subordinates. Sometimes Zhukov will prepare for himself a "sphere of action" completely osoznanno. For example, after planning a 'reconnaissance' trip into a foreign country, he will familiarise himself with his surroundings, giving him the possibility of paying visits to strangers in order to question them about their life and existence, so that after a short period of time, they become like close relatives.

    In his private life Zhukov often conquers space with the aid of his loudness and powerful air. To characteristically perekrikivat'sya with the parents through entire court - into this minute he feels for Zhukov as a child, which manages entire surrounding space. For Zhukov, when he moves house or settles down somewhere, he will amp up the volume of the music he is listening to and throw the door to his appartment wide open so that his neighbours are under no illusion as to who is the owner. For the same reason, Zhukovs themselves despise their 'musical' neighbours; they can collect a list of signatures of their neighbours in order to evict them, so that they remain at the top.

    The arrangement of power in Zhukov are always very primitive: either/or - there is no other alternative. This can be explained by the fact that Zhukov is always concentrated on one close purpose - either it its beret or no ("either pan- - or propal"). To this, according to the large calculation, and is subordinated entire its system of the relations: "Either I am leader or I am in the sixth position"; "Either I own this place or I don't". In his system of power arrangements, there are only two power poles: strong and weak. Zhukov prefers to be at the strong end of the pole, but after proving to be at the weak end, he knows how to recognize his defeat and how to subordinate himself to the conquering force. Zhukov is characterized by exceptional fitness for work and persistence, and this grows proportional to the quantity of obstacles.

    Zhukov makes no attempt to doubt hiss right to lead people. He speaks in a confident, commanding voice. He is not lenient, as he considers this trait to be too worthless to manage. He prefers only to require; to use any possibility to manifest his volitional qualities - resoluteness, persistence, inflexibility, declaring himself a strict, but valid leader. Zhukov appears adept as the leader and organizer: the level of the qualification of each is accurately evaluated and each it makes responsible a maximum. He distributes work so that the power arrangements are optimum. The most intensive tempo of work is assigned, in order to obtain the most productive return in minimum time. Under normal conditions Zhukov feels himself to be "not in his regime", but in the extreme situation he is activated and will mobilize. For the same reason, he loves to create an atmosphere of psychological stress - this entertains him. He loves to tell terrible stories, loves to 'congeal paints', and to spread a panicky mood; with pleasure he spreads rumours, which are frequently exaggerated.

    In extreme circumstances, Zhukov happily tones up, precisely, therefore he sometimes specially stiffens disciplinary conditions and holds his subordinates in constant stress. Even during calm, everyday work, Zhukov frequently introduces a situation of the substantiated in no way extremality: so it is more convenient to him very, and consequently, as he considers it, conveniently and as other. The joint consideration of the solutions prefers, but the final solution, just as responsibility for it, assumes itself. "It was not the one who gave good advice who won the battle, but the one who took upon himself the responsibility for its fulfillment and who carried out the order" (Bonaparte).

    Zhukov loves and knows how to take responsibility for himself. He quickly grasps the situation and the arrangement of power, makes a decision, and acts. He knows how to risk; how to 'stake everything'. He is rarely subjected to fear. The more dangerous the situation, the more sobranneye and decisive he is. In extreme conditions, his will, resoluteness, courage and practical thinking help to find a way out. In critical situations he makes decisive actions, for the 'growth of power potential'. (Lightness and carelessness are important, with which, in his opinion, it is necessary to fight.) He prefers to act coolly and is very energetic, answering impact with equal impact. In the case of external physical danger he is inclined to farsightedly retirovat'sya. But if, in view of circumstances, it is necessary to get involved in conflict, he prefers not to step back, but to fight to the end, even to the detriment of his own interests. The main thing is victory at any cost.

    He is not inclined to be adapted to a partner, only to dictate. Usually he tries to be polite and self-possessed, but if his pride is caught, he cannot hide his irritation. Being located in the 'pinched' state, internally he is nervous and he persistently searches for output from the created position. In association, Zhukov frequently allocates to himself the function of an informal leader; a secret controller of the situation, he prefers to remain in the shadows.

    Concerning the expediency of actions, volitional qualities, and the need for mobilizing his forces, he speaks in a tone that does not suffer objections. He loves to discuss discipline and the need for bringing up the volitional and purposeful nature. He constantly holds his environment in the stressed, mobilised state. He demands respect from himself and others. People who do not carry out their promises Zhukov does not respect. In his eyes they mean nothing when it comes down to it. He does not feel it necessary to hide his contempt for them. He is confident in his own force and and in his significance, just as he is in his destiny. He is often reckless and is inclined to rivalry and competition. To all everywhere, he constantly ties its vital values as the certain. He aims to avoid being subject to doubt, and claims absolute truth. Frequently and with pleasure he speaks about the 'rough reality', and he values in himself the skill to receive life 'as it is'. He willingly shares his life experience, he frequently too importunately teaches to that, 'as it is necessary to live'. He always knows 'how must' and 'as it is not must'.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    2. Introverted Logic

    "Knowledge is power". In the system of basic values, inherent in intellectuals of this type, the aspect of the logic of relationships is important - he realises the program of intellect, and consequently, he enters quite naturally into it. A competent person, in the eyes of Zhukov, is protected. A person, who does not have the necessary information, is defenceless. Therefore the collection of necessary information for Zhukov is so important as it allows for the growth of power potential. (For Zhukov, in many instances, this is one and the same.) Information which is important to Zhukov can be obtained by fraud or craftiness. He can secure its price via application of - in his opinion - 'insignificant' volitional pressure, e.g. 'take for the fright'. He always values information, regardless of whether or not it is necessary: 'travelling around a foreign country, it follows well to study it. In that case, it is sometimes necessary to conquer" (Napoleon Bonaparte).

    Enormous service in the collection of information renders Zhukov's dual, Sergei Yesenin, who, in the course of events, always has a mass of necessary and unnecessary acquaintances, and with ease is capable nenavyazchivoy of telling quite nekommunikabel'nogo person and with the characteristic of it exceptional inquisitiveness to question in that everything which to it is necessary, and everything, which can prove useful to it. The volitional pressure of Zhukov frequently realizes by the method of logical persuasion. For this it from nature is allotted by the flexible, manipulative logic, which first of all serves purposes and interests of its volitional program.

    In his judgment about any object, Zhukov is always far from being objective, since, first of all, he proceeds from his own 'program' and power arrangement; from his personal interests and his own purposes. Therefore, when in discussi with Zhukov, it is necessary to constantly have in the form that the facts given by him are not for serving the objective explanation of truth, but for the unquestionable acknowledgement of his personal point of view and his system of views. To argue with Zhukov is futile as well as inexpedient. His partisan stance immediately becomes obvious and spekulyativnost' of its reasons. He has a tendency towards simplified conclusions and to solve problems by the yes-or-no method. With Zhukov, there is no middle ground; he tends towards black and white views. It is difficult to discuss personal plans with him, as he will always compare them with his own, and proceeds from the possibilities of his own successes.

    Zhukov no one will allow himself to gallop although to polgolovy, no one he will allow "to zastolbit'" that "gold vein", to which in it personally yet did not reach the hands. Entire its logic, all its arguments, entire force of its persuasions it will be directed toward that in order to prove to man that this made must not be. He will not take advice - even to the detriment of his own interests. Objective truths are used by him not for abstract reflection, but as a means of preserving a goal-directed line of reasoning.

    His point of view will tie and prove despite the general opinion, using for this all permissible and (most likely) inadmissible forms of conducting the dispute: he is capable of increasing the volume of his voice, and of using emotional or physical pressure; during disputes he searches not for truths but for victories. When he finds no means with which to convince his opponent, he turns to spectators in order to ridicule his enemy. He sees himself as that obligated to gain victory via any method necessary. Zhukov will often destroy his opponent with a perfectly placed phrase or last word.

    From nature he is allotted to grow prettier by memory. Zhukov has his own idea for each question and knows how to base it. He widely uses well-known facts, statistical data, and examples from history. With the study of problem he does not forget even the most insignificant details. If it is prepared for the dispute, previously is selected the best version of proofs, he tries everything to provide and to work, frequently even mathematically to count.

    Considerable attention is focused on the authenticity of information sources. If necessary, Zhukov can select information exceptionally accurately and pedantically. He prefers not to use doubtful information sources. Of course, knowledge is necessary to representatives of this type not only in order to win an argument and by any means to conquer authority. The skill of being able to think logically is the most important tool of his intellect.

    Representatives of this type willingly and with pleasure learn their entire life - constantly and everywhere. They approach very thoroughly any undertaking, and will gather and analyse all necessary information, in order to increase the level of their qualification. Much and with the pleasure will they work at themselves. They have the widest circle of interests. Far from purely scientific research, Zhukov is stimulated by the expectation of ranks and rewards, although the documentary confirmation of his authority - diplomas, certificates and other decorations - are undoubtedly very important. (Zhukov is often suggested by the acknowledged authorities and he loves to confirm his authority documentatively, although the quality of the obtained formation for it is much more important than testifying about this document.)
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    3. Extraverted Intuition

    The program of 'power priority' constantly requires from Zhukov the skill to be foresighted, farsighted and prudent in all his actions. Any oversight turns around for him by the defeat of his own plans, by wreck quarries and by deposition from the leaders into 'sixth position'. Zhukov, playing "on- large", "on- large" loses.

    With Zhukov - as with any sensor - the tendency to speak out most prominently, concretely and clearly that he inadvertently forces himself to make a slip of the tongue with anything excessive, which then can be wrapped up against, is characteristic. Frequently he says that which is akin to 'language is my enemy'. He can develop such qualities as circumspection and caution when around unfamiliar people, but he never will learn to speak concretely, to sosredotachivat' its attention in the concrete account of thought, in the concrete reasons and the facts. For example, if someone says 'our firm gives you reduction to the payment of the expensive and reinlisted medical services. For this you to us will be monthly pay... ', Zhukov replies 'make it possible, objects opponent, I must pay only for the reduction to the payment of the services, by which 4 within the next few years and use- that I am not gathered?! So in how much me will manage this 'reduction'?!'

    Somewhere in his arguments Zhukov compulsorily gives 'trump' against himself. His logic is weak intuitively, at least because it is too strong by his volitional pressure. His arguments always carry some immediate benefit, and his persuasiveness is based not on the real, but on the desired, podtasovannoy data base. (Because of his skill to convince with the aid of the ordered podtasovannykh facts, representatives of this type are skillful mediators in any doubtful commercial measures; they can very Boyko deal in 'holes from the boubliks', in what and they are frequently exposed.) However, if with this crushing volitional sensory, Zhukov would be still, he would become invulnerable by intuition... Fortunately, due to his nature, this is impossible.

    However Zhukov tries to develop this function, it will never be sufficient strong. It occurs, by these even weakens its program: it begins to wait and to check chances, where it is necessary to act by volitional pressure and by strong pressure. Alas, one excludes another. In any event, for Zhukov it is necessary to take into consideration calculations according to the aspect of the 'intuition of possibilities', especially at the early stages of contact.

    Zhukov very carefully ties new contacts. He is stressed and alerted in the contact with the new people: from one side, he checks his behavior, trying to produce the most favourable impression, and with another, he attempts to control his collocutor, trying to correlate their volitional potential with his own. He frequently creates the situation, which makes it possible for him to rapidly determine the possible power arrangement: he will try in any manner to state his rights on the leadership and will be aware of any reaction to this. Sometimes Zhukov will manipulate the situation so that his collocutor must depend on him somehow. Sometimes this is done through habit i.e. his prescribed style of contact, and sometimes it is for purposes of 'reconnaissance' of permissible possibilities.

    With his external straightness Zhukov is capable of manifesting the miracles of adaptability. Very konformen. He instantly knows how to imitate the predominating public ideology, that even in those, who know its brief time, appears confidence in his absolute unscrupulousness. After outlining to himself his purpose, he never goes immediately right through. On the contrary, he can play the role of the absolutely disinterested person, simultaneously estimating the possible methods of action. He will try to use personal charm or will influence through friends and the familiar. Briefly, Zhukov searches for the 'levers of influence' by relying on the already prevailing systems of communications and hierarchies and trying to find the 'necessary person' in the 'necessary clan'. (The 'compressive iron belt' strategy.)

    Zhukov does not expend his energy in vain; he only uses it if necessary. He loves to develop the role of patron, benefactor or 'cross father'(generally, the 'native father' - 'Lenin children'). Being a professional politician, he is proficient in knowing how to manoeuvre, but he never loses his line. Further short-term concessions does not go. He formualtes his strategy, designed for the skill to improvise and for success ("The main thing is to get involved in the battle, and look there").

    Zhukov does not love to work in the conditions of a rigid framework. The freedom of actions and scale are necessary to him. His plans are dynamic, and they are constantly corrected by real circumstances. He fears late actions, as far as possible, it conducts expectant tactics, saving up initiative for the decisive breakthrough at the necessary moment. He listens to all from whom it is possible to obtain efficient council. He loves to converse with the specialists and to learn from them. Concerning future plans he tries to speak confidently and with optimism, although he is almost always far from confident in a positive outcome.

    Zhukov prohibits himself from talking about his own neudachlivosti and to nevezuchesti, even in the circle of his closest friends.(His dual, Sergei Yesenin, unluckily wretches very highly they do not quote; therefore Zhukov it will do entire possible so as this to hide.) No one it allows to its connections on no account it reveals its acquaintances, although it attempts to produce the impression of man in whom everything is under control. In reality, everything truly is under control, but only for himself and for 'his' - the quality, which greatly assigns on it his dual.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    You know the whole strati profiles are here in their entirety, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP
    You know the whole strati profiles are here in their entirety, right?
    Yes, HumanBean posted them. I took the liberty of making the same description of SLE more readable. This is what is presented to you now.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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