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    which type is most powerful ?

    ENTJ ?

    ESTJ ?

    or INTJ ?

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    Define "power."

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    its only a funny vague question..

    if there is competition of 16 types..

    who is most likely to win ?

    who is most likely to lead ?

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    ESTp

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    I guess that the classic "leader" types are ENTj, ESTp, ENFj, and ESTj. (in no particular order).
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    ENFjs are best at leading others through inspiration, followed by ESFps.

    ESTps are the best at leading others through force and the aura of their authority.

    ENTjs aren't particularly great leaders, but rather are good at directing a group towards a particular end efficiently.

    ESTjs aren't really the leader sort.
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    The person who truly understands power is the most powerful. No type, lineage, financial standing, appearance, or anything else determines it. This is the Information Age. The person who best utilizes information is the most powerful. It's all about knowing what to do and then DOING it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    Define "power."
    power --> Ability to act , lead , control

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    Power: the ability to get stuff to happen that you want to happen.
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    My honest opinion?
    ESTp.
    After some recent events, I'd have to say ENFp, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    Power: the ability to get stuff to happen that you want to happen.
    Not if you live with an INTp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord
    After some recent events, I'd have to say ENFp, however.
    Explain!
    ENFP - Ethical Subtype.
    In touch with semireality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonMonk
    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord
    After some recent events, I'd have to say ENFp, however.
    Explain!
    'Nuff said...
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    power --> Ability to act , lead , control

    Wouldn't that depend on who is interacting with who? I honestly think that I would perform much better under the leadership of an ESFp than that of an ESTj, for example. And I think that ENFps have great leadership potential, but only with certain types.

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    okay, if "power" means the ability to lead people, then must they know they are being led in order for it to be recognized as power?
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    It's a silly question, power is too relative in it's applicability. You'd probably have better chances of knowing which of two members of the same type is more powerful. (While actually not having any chances to answer precisely since power is not parallely definable with types.)

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    I would define power as the ability to cause an event to go as one desires, thus it would seem sensible to conclude that ESTps are the most "powerful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSonic
    I would define power as the ability to cause an event to go as one desires, thus it would seem sensible to conclude that ESTps are the most "powerful."
    Didn't I just say this? See p 1! Great minds think alike, I spose . . . :wink:
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    "Didn't I just say this? See p 1! Great minds think alike, I spose . . . "

    Oh....
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSonic
    I would define power as the ability to cause an event to go as one desires, thus it would seem sensible to conclude that ESTps are the most "powerful."
    But influencing an event means influencing people. And I don't think one type can influence all other types equally well.

    It depends on the task at hand and the people involved.
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    "It depends on the task at hand and the people involved."

    But then wouldn't the question be: which type has the most influence in the most amount of circumstances?
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSonic
    "It depends on the task at hand and the people involved."

    But then wouldn't the question be: which type has the most influence in the most amount of circumstances?
    Yes, I suppose. But you would have to relate each type to all other types and determine how they influence each other during different tasks. Quite the task...

    And it's probably more complex than that...
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    The most powerful type? In most cases it would be the Administrator, LSE. There are a couple of other places other types have a certain amount of "power", but in general it would be the LSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSonic
    "It depends on the task at hand and the people involved."

    But then wouldn't the question be: which type has the most influence in the most amount of circumstances?
    Yes, I suppose. But you would have to relate each type to all other types and determine how they influence each other during different tasks. Quite the task...

    And it's probably more complex than that...
    There's so many angles to power and how people acquire and wield it.

    It may depend on what the situation calls for. In a crisis for example, I can see estp jamming around calling the shots and people following the lead.

    When things are stable and steady, probably estj is going to hold the reins and keep things on a stable course - people sensing that this is the kind of leadership which is needed.

    Nevermind. I was talking about leadership instead of power.

    Although good leaders must be powerful.
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    Who is the least powerful? PoLR?

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    It would seem so, and with that, INFj would theoretically be the weakest.
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    That's why they are very good people, because they are virtually powerless.
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    That's why they are very good people, because they are virtually powerless.
    I was thinking the same thing

    Some INFjs can be VERY good, stealthy intriguants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    It would seem so, and with that, INFj would theoretically be the weakest.
    At least I have someone I can dominate.

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    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
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    NO! INFP. They control the ESTP (as soon as they get out of those handcuffs)

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    I actually made a mistake; ENFp is the weakest. And for some reason, I sound like I'm being an asshole (feels like I'm being an ass to Topaz but I'm not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    I actually made a mistake; ENFp is the weakest. And for some reason, I sound like I'm being an asshole (feels like I'm being an ass to Topaz but I'm not).
    Harumph OK Cone I challenge you to a push-up contest!
    What makes IEE so weak?

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    Quit being an ass towards Topaz, Cone.


    ENFps are terrible to argue with. Very easy to back into corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    Quit being an ass towards Topaz, Cone.


    ENFps are terrible to argue with. Very easy to back into corners.
    uh oh this convesation has taken a sexual tone
    OK so we're in the corner... then what?

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    I'm not the one backed into the wall here. :wink:


    IEEs are bad to argue with because the have a tendency to accept/agree with everything.

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    But seriously IEE is not the control freak of Delta. That would be LSE. They might follow LSE. Beta seems to me to be quite controling and so does Gama but a little less so. Basically ExxJ has the greatest control needs and would be seen as the most powerful. SLE would be powerful but I think they would be more concerned with their own interest than the rest of the worlds. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    IEEs are bad to argue with because the have a tendency to accept/agree with everything.
    Thats not true is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    SLE would be powerful but I think they would be more concerned with their own interest than the rest of the worlds. IMO
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