ENTP or ENTJ

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

i love to push buttons

im funny and playful

i hate dumb people

original. leader. hate groups. straight to the point and matter of fact.

anti social. dont waste words. but outgoing and can be friendly if i want to.

much more sensitive than anyone in real life would ever know. ppl think im crazy/weird. theyre right.

too single minded and determined to be a P, too playful and fun to be a J

i hate starting schoolwork (id rather mess around on the net), BUT when I finally do start, i never stop until im done. relentless.

easy time dropping relationships, hard time forgetting them.

vengeful. trickery. schemer. life is a chessboard. lots of enemies but its never personal.


im enneagram 8w7 sx btw


ENTJ or ENTP?

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

i have a hard time taking care of myself

dont dress or eat properly

wear a tshirt in the winter and boots in the summer (accidentally)

original, unique. no desire to "fit in"

im nice until someone gets on my bad side. then i destroy them.

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

hate taking orders

hate when people tell me what to do

hate when someone is in a higher position

not jealous at all. dont care about what other people are doing (social last on enneagram)

want to have my own small business with my own rules and schedule

see right through people. instant bullshit detector.

great investigator and detective.

amazing acting skills

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

either extremely silly or extremely serious

all work and no play or all play and no work

[diamond]

Entp.


An entj would never come across that way.

[discojoe]

Yeah, you have the ENTp knack for self-aggrandizement.

[Kim]

Yeah, you have the ENTp knack for self-aggrandizement.

Yeah, what's up with ENTp constantly having to comment on other people's supposed dumbness? ENTps just love to be misunderstood, to have enemies, to be called crazy and weird and feel as if they are the only ones who understand the grand scheme of things.

It's quite lovable because they are, ehm, rather transparent... :wink:

[discojoe]

Yeah, you have the ENTp knack for self-aggrandizement.

Yeah, what's up with ENTp constantly having to comment on other people's supposed dumbness? ENTps just love to be misunderstood, to have enemies, to be called crazy and weird and feel as if they are the only ones who understand the grand scheme of things.

It's quite lovable because they are, ehm, rather transparent... :wink:

They're only transparent when they act like that, though. It's a facade.

[diamond]

Yeah, you have the ENTp knack for self-aggrandizement.

Yeah, what's up with ENTp constantly having to comment on other people's supposed dumbness? ENTps just love to be misunderstood, to have enemies, to be called crazy and weird and feel as if they are the only ones who understand the grand scheme of things.

It's quite lovable because they are, ehm, rather transparent... :wink:

They're only transparent when they act like that, though. It's a facade.

What's a facade?

@Kim: I try not to comment on other people's dumbness. I only think it once in awhile.

[discojoe]

Yeah, you have the ENTp knack for self-aggrandizement.

Yeah, what's up with ENTp constantly having to comment on other people's supposed dumbness? ENTps just love to be misunderstood, to have enemies, to be called crazy and weird and feel as if they are the only ones who understand the grand scheme of things.

It's quite lovable because they are, ehm, rather transparent... :wink:

They're only transparent when they act like that, though. It's a facade.

What's a facade?

@Kim: I try not to comment on other people's dumbness. I only think it once in awhile.

An artificial or deceptive front: ideological slogans that were a façade for geopolitical power struggles.

[Ms. Kensington]

how old are you? could affect my answer

you sound ENTp

[diamond]

Yeah, you have the ENTp knack for self-aggrandizement.

Yeah, what's up with ENTp constantly having to comment on other people's supposed dumbness? ENTps just love to be misunderstood, to have enemies, to be called crazy and weird and feel as if they are the only ones who understand the grand scheme of things.

It's quite lovable because they are, ehm, rather transparent... :wink:

They're only transparent when they act like that, though. It's a facade.

What's a facade?

@Kim: I try not to comment on other people's dumbness. I only think it once in awhile.

An artificial or deceptive front: ideological slogans that were a façade for geopolitical power struggles.

I know what a facade is, silly. :-) What facade are you referring to?

[Artemis]

dont dress or eat properly

wear a tshirt in the winter and boots in the summer (accidentally)

not jealous at all. dont care about what other people are doing (social last on enneagram)

You were INFp until you got to these ones.

[Rocky]

A socionic INTP (ILI).

[MysticSonic]

Wtf? Have you _ever_ seen a "playful" INTp, let alone an INTp who "likes to push buttons"?

[Rocky]

Wtf? Have you _ever_ seen a "playful" INTp, let alone an INTp who "likes to push buttons"?

Yup.

i love to push buttons

im funny and playful

i hate dumb people

original. leader. hate groups. straight to the point and matter of fact.
--> ILEs are generally not straight, to the point, or matter of fact. Te.

anti social. dont waste words. but outgoing and can be friendly if i want to.
--> Anitsocial, but friendly when he want's to be?

much more sensitive than anyone in real life would ever know. ppl think im crazy/weird. theyre right.
--> Soundes like an Fe PoLR... sensitive but no one knows it.

too single minded and determined to be a P, too playful and fun to be a J
--> Too single-minded to be a P, but to playful to be a J? ILEs are generally not single-minded, but the ILIs are.

i hate starting schoolwork (id rather mess around on the net), BUT when I finally do start, i never stop until im done. relentless.
--> sounds more like an irrational type, possibally an introvert.

easy time dropping relationships, hard time forgetting them.
--> I don't know if this applies to ILEs, too, but it definatly applies to ILIs and SLIs.

vengeful. trickery. schemer. life is a chessboard. lots of enemies but its never personal.
--> irrational again...

i have a hard time taking care of myself
--> Si role?

dont dress or eat properly
--> Si role?

wear a tshirt in the winter and boots in the summer (accidentally)
--> Si role?

original, unique. no desire to "fit in"
--> isn't the ILE's hidden agenda to fit in?

im nice until someone gets on my bad side. then i destroy them.

hate taking orders

hate when people tell me what to do

hate when someone is in a higher position

not jealous at all. dont care about what other people are doing (social last on enneagram)
--> introvert?

want to have my own small business with my own rules and schedule

see right through people. instant bullshit detector.

great investigator and detective.

amazing acting skills
--> intuitive, probably.

either extremely silly or extremely serious
--> are ILEs generally serious? ILIs seem to branch off to both sides.

all work and no play or all play and no work

[Kim]

Wtf? Have you _ever_ seen a "playful" INTp, let alone an INTp who "likes to push buttons"?

Yeah, my INTp ex. He had really cute, playful moments.

[Rocky]

entj...

I could see that before ILE... Gamma first.

[Angel von Himmel]

To be honest, I do not think that this description is worth trying to attribute to any type ... sounds way too immature, like the person is a pre-teen or something.

[Cone]

Ditto.

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

To be honest, I do not think that this description is worth trying to attribute to any type ... sounds way too immature, like the person is a pre-teen or something.

and who the hell are you? a little gimpy kid that just figured out his own type and now thinks he's some sort of misunderstood genius. please. spare me the drama. marcus wrecks kids like you.

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

An entj would never come across that way.

explain yourself. please and thank you.

[Darklord]

and who the hell are you? a little gimpy kid that just figured out his own type and now thinks he's some sort of misunderstood genius. please. spare me the drama. marcus wrecks kids like you.

RMcNew is one of the people who know the most about socionics on here, and probably west of the Russian border overall. He's typed the most people correctly of any person not employed in the field, and he's the only person here who has managed to make a test worth the time used to take. It also happens to be one of the longest tests on record.
Feel free to flame him, as long as it's on your own risk :wink: .

[Rocky]

RMcNew is one of the people who know the most about socionics on here, and probably west of the Russian border overall. He's typed the most people correctly of any person not employed in the field..

No offense to McNew, but what do you mean he typed the most people correctly? Do you mean by test? Or observation?

(And don't get Waddlesworth started on McNew's knowledge of socionics. :wink: )

[XcaliburGirl]

RMcNew is one of the people who know the most about socionics on here, and probably west of the Russian border overall. He's typed the most people correctly of any person not employed in the field..

No offense to McNew, but what do you mean he typed the most people correctly? Do you mean by test? Or observation?

(And don't get Waddlesworth started on McNew's knowledge of socionics. :wink: )

Uh, yeah, I was going to take issue w/ that too, Rocky. I don't see how anyone can claim type anyone correctly, since there's no way to prove it.

[Darklord]

No offense to McNew, but what do you mean he typed the most people correctly? Do you mean by test? Or observation?

Mostly testing, though sometimes through observation usually by very sketchy descriptions. He has had quite a bit of experience, it seems. He also has most of the criteria and descriptions memorized. This makes him a prime typer.

Also, the correctly part... I just assumed that when the subjects don't object, the typings are mostly accurate.

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

RMcNew is one of the people who know the most about socionics on here, and probably west of the Russian border overall.

LOL!!!

[Rocky]

RMcNew is one of the people who know the most about socionics on here, and probably west of the Russian border overall.

LOL!!!

.. I agree, just ignore that...

And when I saw that, I mean that most of us around here are on more of a "check and balance" system; we have to be watching out for what others say just in case.

[Creepy-]

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[Angel von Himmel]

I am not going to overreact to what some of you have been saying about me, but I am not one to believe that there is honestly such a thing as a professional when it comes to something like "socionics." I would say that a great deal of information available is meerly a matter of opinion or various interpretations, including V.I., typing, etc. ...

As far as official information goes or perceived authorities go, I do not even think there are any and if there supposedly are, I would not strictly follow them anyways. Though, I would consider anyone based as having a natural advantage, as most psychological theories are based and easily grasped by those types.

[Creepy-ms kensington]

I am not going to overreact to what some of you have been saying about me, but I am not one to believe that there is honestly such a thing as a professional when it comes to something like "socionics." I would say that a great deal of information available is meerly a matter of opinion or various interpretations, including V.I., typing, etc. ...

As far as official information goes or perceived authorities go, I do not even think there are any and if there supposedly are, I would not strictly follow them anyways. Though, I would consider anyone based as having a natural advantage, as most psychological theories are based and easily grasped by those types.

i dont pretend to know what has been said in the past

its just so weird to hear someone use psychological terms to describe who best understands a psychological theory. Interesting.

[diamond]

Don't sweat it rmcnew. Socionics is just your latest obsession. You're up to your ears in socionics. Do you think of this and that about socionics day and night, with all different kinds of applications?

I get really into things, too. I'll get totally obsessed for say six months to a year. Then I'm done with the topic. Totally done. It's part of my world understanding in a complete and holistic way, and I'm on to something else to augment my understanding of reality.

It's an intense and exciting way to live . . . too bad not everyone can appreciate it! :wink:

[Angel von Himmel]

Yeah, that is pretty much what I do ... I usually make sure that I make mark before moving on, though.

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

So what are you waiting for this time? Make your mark.

[Creepy-marcus the maniac]

Posting on a rinky dinky little forum full of 14 year of metrosexuals isnt leaving your mark.