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    Default Dual-type theory: INTjs in popular culture

    What I'm specifically doing in this thread is demonstrating the existence of the variations in INTjs due to the existence of exertion type.

    Starting with my own combination, INTj-ENFj.

    This type seems to be poorly represented. These are the only examples I've found so far.

    Bible Black Gaiden's protagonist (the one on the left)



    Calm, collected... and driven, although I'm not sure drive correlates to type.... Suffice to say, she's the closest I've yet come to a fictional correspondent to myself. Definitely an INTj-ENFj who feels in control, and who is determined to defend what she knows to be true.

    This character from Langrisser III



    I know little about this character because I've not played the game. I'll try to get a script that's been translated into English from the original Japanese.



    INTj-ENTj

    From Bleach:
    Uryū Ishida





    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ury%C5%AB_Ishida
    Uryū operates on a moral ethic known as the "Pride of the Quincy" and has a strong sense of justice. He has also shown to be very chivalrous, stating that he enacts justice on men who abuse or treat women badly. He demonstrates this at multiple points throughout the series, such as when he tried to defend Rukia Kuchiki from Renji Abarai when he and Byakuya Kuchiki came to the real world to take her, or when he defends Orihime Inoue at multiple points throughout the Soul Society arc. Uryū also has a tendency to not use lethal force in battle, especially if he can win without doing so. Instead, he will simply incapacitate his opponent.

    INTj-ISFp

    Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex's Motoko Kusanagi
    (the original movie's Motoko is ISFp)





    Major Motoko Kusanagi's formal introduction in the first season comes during the first episode, when Section 9 is called in to resolve a hostage situation at a Geisha house. Throughout the series, The Major maintains her signature commanding presence and authority. Unlike other members of Section 9, The Major could best be described as a lone wolf, relying very little on outside help to accomplish her goals. Among the various members of Section 9, Kusanagi is usually the one Chief Aramaki singles out to accompany him on official and off the record business.

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    Possibly:

    Prince Lacroix from Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines

    Although more likely ENTj metabolism...

    Exertion ENFp's that I know of:

    Jolee Bindo from Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic

    ISTp-ENFp

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    What about Neo from the Lord of the Rings films?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    What about Neo from the Lord of the Rings films?
    (That's the matrix, dude.)
    no you're thinking of Aragorn. Neo was the one from Lord of the Rings

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    Ah, yes Aragorn from The Matrix.

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    I think you're confusing reality with fiction - Aragorn is a fictional character, remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    No, Aragorn is that old guy from Hogwarts.
    wasn't Hogwarts the name of the building in Die Hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    But I saw him there last week. I swear.
    Who? Captain Kirk?

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    Dumbledore was the one who went 'Yippee-ki-yay, mofo' over the edge of a building with a fire hose to get Alan Rickman's character, played by Severus Snape, if I remember correctly.
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    THIRD BASE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Wait a minute. Which building did Arnold Schwarzenegger blow up again?
    you mean the twin towers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Wait a minute. Which building did Arnold Schwarzenegger blow up again?
    you mean the twin towers?
    Ah, that was the name of the second Matrix film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Wait a minute. Which building did Arnold Schwarzenegger blow up again?
    Didn't Al Pacino play his smaller twin brother in a deeply moving film?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Wait a minute. Which building did Arnold Schwarzenegger blow up again?
    Didn't Al Pacino play his smaller twin brother in a deeply moving film?
    Rain Man! I loved that one! Especially that way bloody fightscene in the bar where Queen Latifa cut everybody's arms off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    Didn't Al Pacino play his smaller twin brother in a deeply moving film?
    Yes! That was Total Recall. Very good film. Set on Saturn.
    No it was Rain Man! it was a two parter movie with Queen Latifa and Keith Carradine.

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    Was Risky Business one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's films?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    Was Risky Business one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's films?
    yeah! he played an ENFj in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    What's an ENFj?
    INTjs dual... (you guys should know that being that you're both 2w11s!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    What's an ENFj?
    An ENF with an elephant snout on the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla
    Hey, it does kind of look like an elephant. The dot on the j could be it's eye.
    it's not an elephant... it's not eating any ants

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    What was the name of that film where Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governor of California and promoted a Green agenda? That was funny, it was so implausible! Hmm, the films Hollywood comes up with nowadays .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    What was the name of that film where Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governor of California and promoted a Green agenda? That was funny, it was so implausible! Hmm, the films Hollywood comes up with nowadays .
    dude that was just a bad dream...

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    What about that film where a former Vice President of the United States goes on a one man mission to save the world by preaching to the masses about reducing CO2 emissions, but everyone lets him down, leading to the extinction of the whole human race?
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    my dad is INTj and my mom is ENFj
    ESFp-Fi sub
    6w7 sx/so/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    my dad is INTj and my mom is ENFj
    Are they fictitious?

    But in reply to the rest of the thread: Perhaps we should make it our objective to spread this misinformation into other threads when applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    my dad is INTj and my mom is ENFj
    Are they fictitious?

    But in reply to the rest of the thread: Perhaps we should make it our objective to spread this misinformation into other threads when applicable.
    you mean you haven't been? get with it man, start spreading!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean


    What about Neo from the Lord of the Rings films?
    Neo is, like Keanu Reeves... ENTj-ESFp.

    And an interpolating reformer, I believe.

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    This should be moved to the Non-Socionics Type Theories forum.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    This should be moved to the Non-Socionics Type Theories forum.
    No, because the topic is a specific disposition shared by some INTJs.

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    Everything to do with assuming that exertion theory is part of accepted socionics will be moved to this forum. Period.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Everything to do with assuming that exertion theory is part of accepted socionics will be moved to this forum. Period.
    Well I accept it anyway. Who are you to define what is accepted or not?

    I define socionics as ALL PSYCHIC PHENOMENA ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE EIGHT INFORMATION ELEMENTS AND THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE EIGHT FUNCTIONS TO EACH OTHER. And if you disagree, then I guess that's empricism speaking loudly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    my dad is INTj and my mom is ENFj
    Are they fictitious?

    But in reply to the rest of the thread: Perhaps we should make it our objective to spread this misinformation into other threads when applicable.
    Just throwing it out there for the sake of knowledge (you alphas know how much us gammas love knowledge) thus if anyone had any questions about these semi-duals and/or their relationships they could ask.

    Secondly, yes we should clarify when it s a fictitious discussion
    ESFp-Fi sub
    6w7 sx/so/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    my dad is INTj and my mom is ENFj
    Are they fictitious?

    But in reply to the rest of the thread: Perhaps we should make it our objective to spread this misinformation into other threads when applicable.
    Just throwing it out there for the sake of knowledge (you alphas know how much us gammas love knowledge) thus if anyone had any questions about these semi-duals and/or their relationships they could ask.

    Secondly, yes we should clarify when it s a fictitious discussion
    Like in the title about INTj-ENFjs in Fiction?
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    The title of this thread is redundant.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
    -Mark Twain


    You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

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    I'm looking forward to the other 255 related threads. I hope they are as productive as this one has been.

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    Actually I'd might as well make this a fictional INTj thread with focus on the role of exertion in their experience of life.

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    This should have been called "INTjs In Anime".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    This should have been called "INTjs In Anime".


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    No, I plan to cite INTj characters from art forms other than anime.

    One of the advantages of anime, though, is that you get a consistent VI-personality correspondence that can be empirically validated.

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