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    wow, those pics are big

    eh well
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    Compared to the INTps and INTjs I know, he looks much more INTp, especially the eyes.
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    I can't tell which one he is by reading the descriptions.
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    Isn't that your husband, Joy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Compared to the INTps and INTjs I know, he looks much more INTp, especially the eyes.
    Yes, especially the eyes.
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    yeah
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    I don't know, he just looks high to me.
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

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    What are the main differences between INTjs and INTps?
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    I think your DH looks more intp.
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    DH?
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    Dear Husband.
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    I see.

    In all honesty, I'm sorta stressed about this.
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    Why? Is it because of relations?

    If he is intp then your relations are contrary if you are entp and if you are enfp they are illusionary.

    If you are entp and he is intj then you have mirror relations. If you are enfp and he is intj then you are his supervisee.

    Don't fret. I was in an illusionary relationship once, it was ok.
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    I'm not an ENFp! I wouldn't be concerned about illusionary relations. I get along with INFps very well. What I am concerned about is how things have gotten progressively worse between us over the last year, particularly the last 6 months.
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    I know you are not enfp, I was just messin.

    Progressively worse? How long have you been married?
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    lol, okay
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSonic
    I don't know, he just looks high to me.
    Heh, good point.

    I think Joy's description of him sounds quite INTj.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    he always looks high... becuase he always is high
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    High on what? Weed? There's almost nothing more aggravating to a relationship than substance abuse.
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    Yeah, weed. I don't consider it substance abuse in his case and it doesn't bother me.
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    He's always high but that's not a problem?
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    Well, now we know why everything's screwed up for Joy.
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    He behaves more reasonably high than most people ever do.
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    So why are you stressed with him?
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    He never does anything or goes anywhere. I don't even take him to family functions. He's always been rather leisurely, but in the past year it's gone beyond exceptable perimeters. And I could even deal with all of that if I still felt a connection with him. It seems we're getting more distant as time goes on. I've been telling myself that it's becuase he's depressed. I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    He never does anything or goes anywhere. I don't even take him to family functions. He's always been rather leisurely, but in the past year it's gone beyond exceptable perimeters. And I could even deal with all of that if I still felt a connection with him. It seems we're getting more distant as time goes on. I've been telling myself that it's becuase he's depressed. I don't know.
    What does he say about it?
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    Sounds like total or near total loss of connection. What keeps you together (other than the fact that you are married?)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    What does he say about it?
    Not a bunch... he doesn't talk much anymore. I try to find things that he wants for himself, some kind of anything that would be a positive thing in his life, but he gets irritated.

    What keeps me with him? Trust me, it has NOTHING to do with beig married. Marriage is simply registering your relationship with the government. This is what keeps me with him.

    I've never posted this photo before because it's likely the worst photo of me ever, but it's a picture of the day we decided to get married. We used to be VERY connected. I don't leave because I know what it's like to be depressed. No one is a good partner when they're depressed. I believe things will be better again...
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    Maybe he's going through latency? Refusing to grow up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    Maybe he's going through latency? Refusing to grow up?
    Perhaps, but there's got to be more to it than that.
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    Is he on meds?
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    Adderall.

    When he had no energy to get out of bed in the morning or do anything at all, I took him to the doctor to rule out physical causes. The doctor did some tests and then gave him Lexapro. He refuses to take any meds or supplements to improve his depression. It's like he's gone into autopilot.
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    Why does he refuse to take anti-depressants??
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    he doesn't want the depression to lift
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    Why not?
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    I wish I knew. My best guess is that he doesn't want to have to do anything.
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    He doesn't want the depression to lift _because_ he's depressed. I was the same exact way.
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

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    “Let us forget with generosity those who cannot love us”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    when you are that close with someone who is depressed, you really have to watch out for yourself, too.
    uh huh
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    That, to me, would be the bottom line. As long as you can handle it, it's fine to be supportive. But when it gets to you, you cannot be supportive.

    And you know, he might get irritated when you suggest things and insist on something, but hey, that's the reality of relationships. Regardless of types and depression, you cannot have it your way all the way. It doesn't work that way. Relationships are about compromises.

    He might come around and I'm not suggesting to drop him or to apply severe pressure. I'm just saying that you have needs, too, and that you need to look after yourself. And ideally, he should look after your needs as well, especially when he feels less low...
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