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    ...if you think heath is a Ti type.

    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I wouldn't mind too much being Cosmo Kramer, actually.
    i wouldn't mind you being cosmo kramer at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    I don't drink THAT much....
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    oh i know. but what else can we assume from your post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
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    well. i don't see the direct link the processes. 'my parents blasted songs to me in the womb and now i can hear music in my head.' but yes, it's settled more or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    snap. jessica is only this aggressive because she's completely smashed.
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    dumbledore. He's great and leaves people a positive impact. also extremely knowledgable. I wish i had his intelligent social ease.

    Need I go on?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    <hand raise>

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    I don't think any of that proves Ti>Te, but I think this does prove Si>Se

    anyway, this is something my friend and I were discussing last night. About how people care way too much about external appearances of objects. whether it be a computer, themselves, whatever. It matters what it looks like because that is what others immediately note. Whereas a computer's colorful shell and monitor don't really mean shit, neither does a human's, really. people going to gyms with wall to wall mirrors to get a certain muscles tone rather than good fitness and feeling(not that there isn't a correlation between the two, the consideration is of reasons why people do things). it is stupid how much we care about external appearance and how much we ignore internal sensation/properties.
    Unless you're thinking he's ENTp like you? He seems to be more likely Ej temperment IMO.
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    isfj or estj
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    How does none of that point to Ti? ALL of that was taken out of hist last 20 or so posts. I'd like to see you pick out that much Ti from MY posts.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Mus that one
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    How does none of that point to Ti? ALL of that was taken out of hist last 20 or so posts. I'd like to see you pick out that much Ti from MY posts.
    Illogical. There is no defined standard for Ti.
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    shit that's another rule

    Ok, use some other ILE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I always thought he could be INTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    How does none of that point to Ti? ALL of that was taken out of hist last 20 or so posts. I'd like to see you pick out that much Ti from MY posts.
    Illogical. There is no defined standard for Ti.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Exactly, that means I'm right.
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    How does "External Statics of Fields" sound to you?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    I always thought he could be INTj.
    Maybe, but he seems pretty self-sufficient as far as Si goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    How does "External Statics of Fields" sound to you?
    Ok, but there aren't real world examples...don't get me started.
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    What do you mean "Real world" examples? Go understand what those terms mean, and you will start seeing real world examples ALL around you, Fabie.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    oh man. this thread gives me the stomach jumps.

    I think intj is a very likely type. I've been looking over my face and features and I definitely have what the V.I. practicioners note as an intuitive shape face. I lead an ordered, rational lifestyle. I emphasize a lot of Si in posts i suppose. But comfort and harmony in my immediate surroundings are less important than order. I have a friend who comes from a very strong Si family. When I go to his house I immediately note how well furnished the home is and the myriad of houseplants and clever decorations. There is an order in the house that relies much less on systemization and logical followings, but much more on beauty. etc. We both talk a lot of Si issues but I think he has a better understanding. He pays very close attention to people's daily routines. He was telling me the other day about how his neighbors never pay attention to their active black lab dog. He was saying that they come home from work, go inside the house, and watch television while the dog sits outside their door. I think this is a better example of Si than what I have to offer.
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    Si Si Si. I'd go with ESTj. But I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    I always thought he could be INTj.
    Maybe, but he seems pretty self-sufficient as far as Si goes.
    Yeah, from what I've "seen" of him. But I wouldn't rule INTj out on that alone.

    He doesn't seem beta or gamma... and he's not "stand-offish" like a lot of the ISTps I know of.

    ESTj is most likely, I would say.

    Saying he's INTj is based more on a feeling I get off him, but it's nothing I would base a conclusion off of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    What do you mean "Real world" examples? Go understand what those terms mean, and you will start seeing real world examples ALL around you, Fabie.
    I truly need to know first the examples, and only then I can understand the connection.
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    Modus Ponens.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I liked heath's speech about not being superficial or whatever, I thought it was sweet. And I agree.

    You might meet the occasionally decent person in the gym but usually you'll meet fake porn stars that only care about being well fake. They're just hot, but that's all they are. Also they're horrible and shallow people that make fun of others for not being able to lift as much as them or whatever they do. Then they piss and jack off on each other while grunting about how manly they are or whatever they do. I really don't know. I can see the appeal of that type of man, but it's not somebody that would speak to my 'soul' I don't think, even if I do want to be wildly throat fucked by them.

    I want it all, somebody that knows how to be attractive but also has that internal sensation thing going on. I've been with plenty of people that you THINK would be hot in bed but didn't know what they were doing. I think people can be sexy when they don't realize how hot they are. Confidence is nice but in the real world it works better in small doses. Besides I'd much rather lift you up then have to bring you down.

    I don't know though. It's really annoying because the shallow people try harder and put themselves out there more. Yeah I shouldn't judge by appearances but all you shy and inner-y types need to give me SOMETHING to work with for heaven's sake!

    And heath = some delta type. Clearly clearly delta.

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    None of what is in the OP sounds Ti to me. Certainly none of it shows a preference of Ti over Te. And I think creative Si makes sense for him. I think he absolutely prefers Si to Se. I am more set on him being an Si type than a Ti type, but if Si is in his ego block then Ti isn't in his ego block at any rate. And I don't see Fe being in his ego block *at all*. In fact I'd have a hard time believing he prefers Fe over Fi.

    I still say ESTj.
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    Do you understand the definition of Ti? If you did, it might make more sense to you.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Do you understand the definition of Ti? If you did, it might make more sense to you.
    I understand the definition of Ti but you have to find examples of preference over Te, not just a few jokes. T types use both Ti and Te, just like I use both Fi and Fe. When I'm joking I probably use more Fe than Fi because it makes for better jokes.

    I see that you appreciate his humor but that doesn't make him someone with Ti in his ego block. He certainly seems to have Si in his ego block - there is much more evidence of that. And he can't have both in his ego block.
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    i'm going to think this over on an excessively long bike ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Do you understand the definition of Ti? If you did, it might make more sense to you.
    I understand the definition of Ti but you have to find examples of preference over Te, not just a few jokes. T types use both Ti and Te, just like I use both Fi and Fe. When I'm joking I probably use more Fe than Fi because it makes for better jokes.

    I see that you appreciate his humor but that doesn't make him someone with Ti in his ego block. He certainly seems to have Si in his ego block - there is much more evidence of that. And he can't have both in his ego block.
    My point is that I saw a lot more blatant Ti than Te. Go find some stuff that falls under the definition of Te from his posts.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    ...if you think heath is a Ti type.

    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I wouldn't mind too much being Cosmo Kramer, actually.
    i wouldn't mind you being cosmo kramer at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    I don't drink THAT much....
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    oh i know. but what else can we assume from your post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockclimber
    Thanks, now I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight.
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    dont worry they only attack at dinner tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    well. i don't see the direct link the processes. 'my parents blasted songs to me in the womb and now i can hear music in my head.' but yes, it's settled more or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    snap. jessica is only this aggressive because she's completely smashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    dumbledore. He's great and leaves people a positive impact. also extremely knowledgable. I wish i had his intelligent social ease.

    Need I go on?
    I also have trouble seeing this as Ti.. do you mean that he is able to switch perspective and justify it? Wouldn't that be more Ne? Irreverent humor.. saying you can't assume things.. is that what you mean?

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    Well, most of them are Ti in it's informational form. The first shows Super-Ego Fi, while the last demonstrates Id Fe. I thought it would be fairly obvious.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    I thought it would be fairly obvious.


    God you are full of shit sometimes. Saying something with that assholeish tone doesn't make you right.
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    Jesus christ, calm down. I'm not trying to be an asshole. It just seemed cut-and-dry to me; I'm SORRY if I assumed too much...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    I thought it would be fairly obvious.


    God you are full of shit sometimes. Saying something with that assholeish tone doesn't make you right.
    I do not think that he was saying it with an "assholeish tone" anymore than how most people proclaim their truths to be self evident on this forum.
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    It is that Ti tone that pisses me off so much. And which, by the way, I've never gotten from Heath's posts. "It's obvious - can't you see it?" ARGH. NO it is NOT obvious - it is JUST IN YOUR HEAD. And you can imagine anything you want but that doesn't make it so, and it doesn't make it obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    It is that Ti tone that pisses me off so much. And which, by the way, I've never gotten from Heath's posts. "It's obvious - can't you see it?" ARGH. NO it is NOT obvious - it is JUST IN YOUR HEAD. And you can imagine anything you want but that doesn't make it so, and it doesn't make it obvious.
    But that self-evident truths symptom is apparent in even non-Ti Quadra posters, so I imagine your problem is more with the poster than with the statement itself. Just as when a Te-dominant says that it is fact, and so it must be, the Ti-dominant also says that the truth should be obvious if you examine and compare.
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    I don't get it! Why does everything I say seem to naturally piss people off? This never happens in real life. What is it about KNOWING that you should naturally have some beef with me that makes you feel the need to CREATE conflict? I mean, clearly, you're trying to blame this whole misunderstand on my being a Ti type, and are for some reason feeling entitled to use the fact that you don't like some of my specific behavior as a reason to not consider heath as having something in common with me. Whatever, Nicky.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    It is that Ti tone that pisses me off so much. And which, by the way, I've never gotten from Heath's posts. "It's obvious - can't you see it?" ARGH. NO it is NOT obvious - it is JUST IN YOUR HEAD. And you can imagine anything you want but that doesn't make it so, and it doesn't make it obvious.
    But that self-evident truths symptom is apparent in even non-Ti Quadra posters, so I imagine your problem is more with the poster than with the statement itself. Just as when a Te-dominant says that it is fact, and so it must be, the Ti-dominant also says that the truth should be obvious if you examine and compare.
    If a Te type says something is a fact, he/she usually shows examples and explains why he/she sees it as a fact, and it's usually clearly based on reality. Ti types come up with ideas in their heads and put up their conclusions and assume everyone will see how obvious their idea is. But it's an idea - they don't have any external proof or anything, they just see something.

    And, for the record, I find Gilly to be quiet entertaining and one of my more liked members of the forum, when he isn't fwapping my PoLR.
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    I don't see any evidence for Heath preferring Ti over Te. I don't see any evidence the other way around either. I do see evidence that he likes Si over Se. Strong evidence, and enough to make me think he might have Si in his ego block. I also don't see that he prefers Fe, though I suppose I could be convinced otherwise. And I think he might be Ej temperment. That is all - it has nothing to do with you, Gilly. It seems to me like you appreciate Heath's humor (as do most people here, I think) and assume therefore he must be the same or a similar type to you.
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    It is that Ti tone that pisses me off so much. And which, by the way, I've never gotten from Heath's posts. "It's obvious - can't you see it?" ARGH. NO it is NOT obvious - it is JUST IN YOUR HEAD. And you can imagine anything you want but that doesn't make it so, and it doesn't make it obvious.
    But that self-evident truths symptom is apparent in even non-Ti Quadra posters, so I imagine your problem is more with the poster than with the statement itself. Just as when a Te-dominant says that it is fact, and so it must be, the Ti-dominant also says that the truth should be obvious if you examine and compare.
    If a Te type says something is a fact, he/she usually shows examples and explains why he/she sees it as a fact, and it's usually clearly based on reality. Ti types come up with ideas in their heads and put up their conclusions and assume everyone will see how obvious their idea is. But it's an idea - they don't have any external proof or anything, they just see something.
    But didn't Gilligan also provide real examples for people to judge?

    And, for the record, I find Gilly to be quiet entertaining and one of my more liked members of the forum, when he isn't fwapping my PoLR.
    Then you should probably stop "fwapping" his PoLR.
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    He put up examples but didn't explain how they show Ti at ALL. I don't see it, Ms. K doesn't see it, but he says, "I assumed it was self-evident." No, things aren't self-evident. I still don't see this Ti>Te preference.
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    But I GAVE legitimate reasoning. It's all there, as long as you understand the definition of Ti.

    I gave you examples, and you said that you understand the concept of Ti, therefore making it safe for me to assume that you would see the Ti in the examples. I don't see where I've gone wrong.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    I don't get it! Why does everything I say seem to naturally piss people off? This never happens in real life. What is it about KNOWING that you should naturally have some beef with me that makes you feel the need to CREATE conflict? I mean, clearly, you're trying to blame this whole misunderstand on my being a Ti type, and are for some reason feeling entitled to use the fact that you don't like some of my specific behavior as a reason to not consider heath as having something in common with me. Whatever, Nicky.
    it's kind of ironic. You are really kind to most people and from what i've observed a key strength of yours is helping others to feel included in whatever social thing is happening. But you do argue endlessly, but avoid making cutting personal statements.

    anyway, you two should knock it off.
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