VI & Energetic Textures

[astralsilky]

VI practitioners,

Do you ever associate "textures" with people of certain types? For example, "XXXX is grainy and unattractive" ... "XXXX is sparkly" ... "XXXX is smooth" ... "XXXX is blank" ... ? 'Cause I tend to, consistently.

Now, is this an "objective" perception of their true type which others might also perceive, or is it the energetic response of my type to theirs?

Please share your thoughts and perceptions on this.

[Jarno]

Nope, my VI doesn't work that way.

I've never understood what you meant with all that energy anyway...

[astralsilky]

... I've never understood what you meant with all that energy anyway ...

sigh

[posablethumb]

Which types do you think are the best V.I.ers? It seems like you know your stuff, astral, with the picking up on vibes and energies.

[astralsilky]

Which types do you think are the best V.I.ers? It seems like you know your stuff, astral, with the picking up on vibes and energies.

Maybe strong Ne and/or Si for repetitious pattern recognition. What do you think?

[FDG]

I understand what you mean, but I generally prefer to avoid terms that have a positive or negative connotations, since of course it'd imply a bias.

You could say though that you simply correlate them in your head and then if you only voice the output of the operation, nothing changes.

[astralsilky]

I understand what you mean, but I generally prefer to avoid terms that have a positive or negative connotations, since of course it'd imply a bias.

You could say though that you simply correlate them in your head and then if you only voice the output of the operation, nothing changes.

Heh! How very Te-dominant of you ...



(Thank you for understanding, btw.)

[Gilly]

You are a complete quack, astralsilky. If I give you pictures, could you type someone I know based on textures? What about a video? Prove me wrong.

[FDG]

You are a complete quack, astralsilky. If I give you pictures, could you type someone I know based on textures? What about a video? Prove me wrong.

She's talking about "vibes".

[Gilly]

Then what does this have to do with VI?

[Creepy-Diana]

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[FDG]

Then what does this have to do with VI?

You're doing it on purpose now

[Gilly]

So why can't it be done through a video?

And no, it's not the same thing. There are patterns and tendencies that I look for; it's not something I just pull out of my ass (contrary to what you may believe...). What the fuck makes a person "grainy?" I think anyone can tell when a person looks "spaced out."

[Slacker]

I think of it as what "vibe" they give off. Which sounds slightly less flakey but it probably the same basic idea regardless of how it sounds.

[Gilly]

I'm not sure it is. Have you heard some of astralsilky's other VI theories? Like holding a ball of energy behind your eyes or in front of your chin? Come on, you can't tell me you actually buy this crap; this is borderline tcaud shit we're talking about.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Slacker]

I'm not sure it is. Have you heard some of astralsilky's other VI theories? Like holding a ball of energy behind your eyes or in front of your chin? Come on, you can't tell me you actually buy this crap; this is borderline tcaud shit we're talking about.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Gilly]

Alright, Diana. You look at these pictures, and tell me you don't think SLEs look more in-touch than EIIs.

http://socionics.us/celebrities/eii.shtml

http://socionics.us/celebrities/sle.shtml

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Creepy-Diana]

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[Gilly]

Look, the point is that even YOU, who claim that VI is all hokey pokey, can tell the difference between an Se-dominant and an Se PoLR when it comes to looking in touch with reality.

And please, don't compare my methods to looking for "energy balls"...I at least base my VI on things that actuality EXIST

[Gilly]

By the way, I hope you realize that you're taking exception to some of your friend Expat's VI techniques as well, seeing as how we agree on nearly every case when it comes to VI.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Gilly]

Well, if by subjective you mean how you define someone looking in touch with reality, then yes. But there are still specific characteristics that I'm referring to; unfortunately, I can't find any better way to word them. So in that sense, yes, they are subjective. But they aren't based on nothing like this "energy/vibe" bullshit.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Gilly]

Just thought I'd let you know...

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Creepy-Diana]

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[Gilly]

O_O Because she's talking about mysticism! Energy behind the eyes and in front of the chin? Grainy vibes? These have nothing to do with observable characteristics! How many time do I have to say it?

For the purpose of being more informed; that's all.

[FDG]

O_O Because she's talking about mysticism! Energy behind the eyes and in front of the chin? Grainy vibes? These have nothing to do with observable characteristics! How many time do I have to say it?

For the purpose of being more informed; that's all.

She's talking about things that have meaning for her. She isn't saying that they have to be universally recognized.

I use the stiffness of my cock to recognize IxFx girls. Isn't this a completely personal measurement?

[Gilly]

But there's absolutely nothing to it! It's not based on any physical features or movements or anything! I don't see how anyone can POSSIBLY take this seriously; the difference between her system and mine is night and day, as far as I can see, and it baffles me that I'm apparently alone in this. I look at physical traits, movement, and physical attitudes; she looks at energy balls and personality textures? Come the fuck on!

[astralsilky]

You are a complete quack, astralsilky. If I give you pictures, could you type someone I know based on textures? What about a video? Prove me wrong.

I don't have to prove you wrong. I have had more than enough uncanny experiences (along with the objective data and people* who validate them) to know that I possess an energetic sensitivity and sense of intuition which most do not.

Apparently your sense of self is so heavily invested in identifying with "being fully aware, realistic, and entirely capable" that the prospect of someone being in touch with abilities outside of your own level of awareness leaves you enraged. (Potential point for personal introspection and growth ... don't waste your energy being angry.)

Now, I *could* attempt discussing these energetic descriptions with you so that we might come to an understanding. (Even though, it would probably be like discussing impressionistic paintings with someone who is colorblind.)

However, your responses have been so unfair and emotionally charged that debating the surface issue would come to nought. Not to mention, I'm not interested in convincing you, anyway.

* (family, friends, coworkers, educators, even individuals who work as professional counselors, etc.)

[Gilly]

Energetic sensitivities? Uncanny experiences? Sense of intuition?

Do I even need to say anything to the rest of you?

[astralsilky]

O_O Because she's talking about mysticism!

Or maybe it's strong awareness of my own Fi, along with some Ne. That's all.

[Gilly]

Learn what those terms mean before you start pretending that they're mystical super powers.

[FDG]

But there's absolutely nothing to it! It's not based on any physical features or movements or anything! I don't see how anyone can POSSIBLY take this seriously; the difference between her system and mine is night and day, as far as I can see, and it baffles me that I'm apparently alone in this. I look at physical traits, movement, and physical attitudes; she looks at energy balls and personality textures? Come the fuck on!

If it works for her, why do you care.???

[Gilly]

I'm just baffled that anyone can take this seriously.

[astralsilky]

Energetic sensitivities? Uncanny experiences? Sense of intuition?

Do I even need to say anything to the rest of you?

Oh, so you've apparently never read an EII, IEE, INFJ or ENFP type profile.



Or else, not very many.

[Gilly]

Show me one that says they're in touch with mysterious energies that magically tell them other people's Socionics types.