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Lance Armstrong ESTjsubtype, cyclist
Michelle Wie ESTj
Maria Sharapova, ESTjsubtype, tennis player
Attractive ESTjs
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Lance Armstrong ESTj
Michelle Wie ESTj
Maria Sharapova, ESTj
Armstrong most definitely, yeah.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I don't find Lance Armstrong attractive in the slightest..or any of them for that matter.
I don't really find Lance Armstrong attractive.
EII
I'll tell you what
there is plenty wrong with me
but I fixed up a few old buildings
and I've planted a few trees.
his fan club is being notified.
asd
that guys nuts... err I mean a nut
Me too, but I heard that some girls find him attractive, so I thought I would just add him on the list to make them happy.Originally Posted by rockclimber
Actually, that aren't many attractive ESTjs. I have to admit that ESTps in general look more attractive than them.
The list continues......
Philip Wang, Founder of Wong Fu Productions, ESTj
Wong Fu On Tour - Episode 1 - Michigan
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtYlWM6oHEo[/youtube]
^ Daniel Craig, James Bond dude
^ Christopher Eccleston, former Doctor Who incarnation, and full-time actor
^ Rebecca De Mornay, actress who was in Risky Business
^ Dave Gorman, comedian who wrote Are you Dave Gorman? and Dave Gorman's Googlewhack Adventure
roger moore
I think, on average, the ESTj is one of the most attractive types. We need better examples.
asd
Re: Attractive ESTjs
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beat me to connery
Mila Jovovich.. looking deceptively beautiful lol.
what do you mean "deceptively"? she's freaking gorgious! (I especially liked her in Resident Evil... hawt!)beat me to connery
Mila Jovovich.. looking deceptively beautiful lol.
i mean ESTjs are not known for being stereotypically femininely beautiful
ahh Ok I thought you were saying she's really ugly and that was just a good shot. I get what yer saying but I think it's a bogus stereotype. Hell I think even Julian Anderson (who's supposedly ESTj) is hot (in her own way) but I can see where she's not hot like in a typical feminin way. grrr... fuck social beauty norms anyways, they're a load of shit invented to sell beauty products and cosmetic surgery
Rebecca De Mornay... hell yeah... hawt!
^ Rebecca De Mornay, actress who was in Risky Business
This is true. I also realize that the ideal attractive male between the 60's-early 90's (Sean Connery, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Indiana Jones, Sherlock Holmes etc.) is the ESTj and there are numerous shows reflecting the ESTj-INFj as the ideal couple. The attention has somehow shifted to the ESTp-INFp these days, and all of the sudden, you don't find many EXTj actors been selected for leading roles.
Must be the emphasis on sex, and pointless emotional drama. Particularly the emphasis on having relationships that do not last very long, couples switching, high school-like affairs.
Not exactly delta values are present, especially in the USA. Delta rational relationships are usually fairly solid. In one sense, that is looked down upon and uncool these days.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
How sad... but very true.
I don't think there has been a shift. Betas and their social lives have always been more interesting to masses. Delta types and their stability has always maintained a society. We have to look at quadra roles. I'm not sure there has been a definite shift of quadra values in our nation. I don't think America, or even America's entertainment industry reflects Beta values. I'd say that Beta people are more vivid than most, and leave a more lasting impression and that is why we have come to these generalizations. I think if you look at most middle class or upper middle class people you will see Te views/values creating the foundation of their beliefs. If you want to consider a put out group of people-- look to the alpha quadra in America. They simply don't belong. I think this may be true of all alphas in all nations, and this is why they are known for having a unique outsider perspective.
asd
Apparently Lance is Si LSE?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
take michelle wi's ugly ass off...wtf lol...
Don't really understand this "Alphas don't really seem to really belong in America thing." There are definitely places in America where they belong less... and places where all types belong less. Maybe just looking for some clarification.
Suomea
Do you not even think Maria's not bad?
lol wtf? Is your pimp hand strong?
yeah dude, that pimp cane she's embroidered says "Pimpin ain't easy"
I disagree. From an interview posted, I don't think she's an LSE at all.beat me to connery
Mila Jovovich.. looking deceptively beautiful lol.
Jewish communities.
Oh, Herzy. You and your Fi PoLR, doing just what UDP did to Gilly a week or two ago.Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?
Difference is, he can't admit to poor Fi.
lol wtf? Is your pimp hand strong?
Jess, not even you could reject this:
Having had experience in dealing with joy, I'd say that perhaps UDP was not saying that that is a description of SLE – IEI duality, but that that was the reason you don't see many deltas in the business. As in, he doesn't know, or particularly care, whether it is or isn't a description of SLE – IEI duality, he just speculates that it could be a reason why deltas keep away.Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?Must be the emphasis on sex, and pointless emotional drama. Particularly the emphasis on having relationships that do not last very long, couples switching, high school-like affairs.
Let the Beta/Gamma do the sludgery. I don't mindyay for passive income
lance armstrong is probably estj. he's kind of showy and likes to announce her victories which doesn't strike me as estj, but what the hell, you win the the tour de france that many times and i guess you get to be an asshole. most professional cyclists from america are delta, but i don't think this is so in other nations. i think this has a quadra influence: given cycling's limited interest in america there is not much 'glory' to be had in the us(which attracts Se types), while in european nations it is a much more popular sport and attracts the competitive and status seeking Se types. it attacts humble enthusiastic, but devoted delta types in the U.S. Anyone, i want to say that cycling is awesome because being thin and short is a total fucking boone in the sport.
asd
Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?
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Mademoiselle, please consider the time of that post in relation to our conversation:
"06-29-2007, 02:30 AM"
Our pm took place long after that post was written.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
No problem.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Why did you quote me to say that?
I was referring to the disclosure of PM contents. I was making a correlation between UDP's pasting PMs between he and Gilly (which Gilly got rather upset about, and challenged UDP's Fi dual seeking, because he thought no Fi dual seeking would do such a thing), and your own mention of a private conversation with UDP in a public forum. That's all.How does this remotely have anything to do with, at all? Also, I have no idea what you're referring to with UDP and Gilly. Speak up.
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