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    Default Attractive ESTjs

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    Lance Armstrong ESTj subtype, cyclist


    Michelle Wie ESTj subtype, golfer


    Maria Sharapova, ESTj subtype, tennis player

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    Armstrong most definitely, yeah.
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    I don't find Lance Armstrong attractive in the slightest..or any of them for that matter.

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    I don't really find Lance Armstrong attractive.
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    but I fixed up a few old buildings
    and I've planted a few trees.

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    his fan club is being notified.
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    that guys nuts... err I mean a nut

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockclimber
    I don't really find Lance Armstrong attractive.
    Me too, but I heard that some girls find him attractive, so I thought I would just add him on the list to make them happy.

    Actually, that aren't many attractive ESTjs. I have to admit that ESTps in general look more attractive than them.

    The list continues......

    Philip Wang, Founder of Wong Fu Productions, ESTj subtype



    Wong Fu On Tour - Episode 1 - Michigan
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtYlWM6oHEo[/youtube]

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    ^ Daniel Craig, James Bond dude



    ^ Christopher Eccleston, former Doctor Who incarnation, and full-time actor



    ^ Rebecca De Mornay, actress who was in Risky Business



    ^ Dave Gorman, comedian who wrote Are you Dave Gorman? and Dave Gorman's Googlewhack Adventure
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    roger moore

    I think, on average, the ESTj is one of the most attractive types. We need better examples.
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    beat me to connery



    Mila Jovovich.. looking deceptively beautiful lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    beat me to connery



    Mila Jovovich.. looking deceptively beautiful lol.
    what do you mean "deceptively"? she's freaking gorgious! (I especially liked her in Resident Evil... hawt!)

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    i mean ESTjs are not known for being stereotypically femininely beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    i mean ESTjs are not known for being stereotypically femininely beautiful
    ahh Ok I thought you were saying she's really ugly and that was just a good shot. I get what yer saying but I think it's a bogus stereotype. Hell I think even Julian Anderson (who's supposedly ESTj) is hot (in her own way) but I can see where she's not hot like in a typical feminin way. grrr... fuck social beauty norms anyways, they're a load of shit invented to sell beauty products and cosmetic surgery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    grrr... fuck social beauty norms anyways, they're a load of shit.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean


    ^ Rebecca De Mornay, actress who was in Risky Business
    Rebecca De Mornay... hell yeah... hawt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    I think, on average, the ESTj is one of the most attractive types. We need better examples.
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    grrr... fuck social beauty norms anyways, they're a load of shit.



    This is true. I also realize that the ideal attractive male between the 60's-early 90's (Sean Connery, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Indiana Jones, Sherlock Holmes etc.) is the ESTj and there are numerous shows reflecting the ESTj-INFj as the ideal couple. The attention has somehow shifted to the ESTp-INFp these days, and all of the sudden, you don't find many EXTj actors been selected for leading roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    The attention has somehow shifted to the ESTp-INFp these days, and all of the sudden, you don't find many EXTj actors been selected for leading roles.
    Must be the emphasis on sex, and pointless emotional drama. Particularly the emphasis on having relationships that do not last very long, couples switching, high school-like affairs.

    Not exactly delta values are present, especially in the USA. Delta rational relationships are usually fairly solid. In one sense, that is looked down upon and uncool these days.
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III

    Must be the emphasis on sex, and pointless emotional drama. Particularly the emphasis on having relationships that do not last very long, couples switching, high school-like affairs.

    Not exactly delta values are present, especially in the USA. Delta rational relationships are usually fairly solid. In one sense, that is looked down upon and uncool these days.
    How sad... but very true.

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    I don't think there has been a shift. Betas and their social lives have always been more interesting to masses. Delta types and their stability has always maintained a society. We have to look at quadra roles. I'm not sure there has been a definite shift of quadra values in our nation. I don't think America, or even America's entertainment industry reflects Beta values. I'd say that Beta people are more vivid than most, and leave a more lasting impression and that is why we have come to these generalizations. I think if you look at most middle class or upper middle class people you will see Te views/values creating the foundation of their beliefs. If you want to consider a put out group of people-- look to the alpha quadra in America. They simply don't belong. I think this may be true of all alphas in all nations, and this is why they are known for having a unique outsider perspective.
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    Apparently Lance is Si LSE?
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    take michelle wi's ugly ass off...wtf lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heath View Post
    I don't think there has been a shift. Betas and their social lives have always been more interesting to masses. Delta types and their stability has always maintained a society. We have to look at quadra roles. I'm not sure there has been a definite shift of quadra values in our nation. I don't think America, or even America's entertainment industry reflects Beta values. I'd say that Beta people are more vivid than most, and leave a more lasting impression and that is why we have come to these generalizations. I think if you look at most middle class or upper middle class people you will see Te views/values creating the foundation of their beliefs. If you want to consider a put out group of people-- look to the alpha quadra in America. They simply don't belong. I think this may be true of all alphas in all nations, and this is why they are known for having a unique outsider perspective.

    Don't really understand this "Alphas don't really seem to really belong in America thing." There are definitely places in America where they belong less... and places where all types belong less. Maybe just looking for some clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I don't find Lance Armstrong attractive in the slightest..or any of them for that matter.
    Do you not even think Maria's not bad?
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Must be the emphasis on sex, and pointless emotional drama. Particularly the emphasis on having relationships that do not last very long, couples switching, high school-like affairs.
    Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    Bitch please.
    lol wtf? Is your pimp hand strong?

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    yeah dude, that pimp cane she's embroidered says "Pimpin ain't easy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington View Post
    beat me to connery



    Mila Jovovich.. looking deceptively beautiful lol.
    I disagree. From an interview posted, I don't think she's an LSE at all.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    take michelle wi's ugly ass off...wtf lol...


    Quote Originally Posted by Suomea View Post
    Don't really understand this "Alphas don't really seem to really belong in America thing." There are definitely places in America where they belong less... and places where all types belong less.
    Jewish communities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?
    Oh, Herzy. You and your Fi PoLR, doing just what UDP did to Gilly a week or two ago.

    Difference is, he can't admit to poor Fi.

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    lol wtf? Is your pimp hand strong?
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Jess, not even you could reject this:

    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Oh, Herzy. You and your Fi PoLR, doing just what UDP did to Gilly a week or two ago.

    Difference is, he can't admit to poor Fi.
    How does this remotely have anything to do with , at all? Also, I have no idea what you're referring to with UDP and Gilly. Speak up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    The attention has somehow shifted to the ESTp-INFp these days, and all of the sudden, you don't find many EXTj actors been selected for leading roles.
    Must be the emphasis on sex, and pointless emotional drama. Particularly the emphasis on having relationships that do not last very long, couples switching, high school-like affairs.
    Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?
    Having had experience in dealing with joy, I'd say that perhaps UDP was not saying that that is a description of SLE – IEI duality, but that that was the reason you don't see many deltas in the business. As in, he doesn't know, or particularly care, whether it is or isn't a description of SLE – IEI duality, he just speculates that it could be a reason why deltas keep away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Gulenko talks about how the Beta/Gamma being central quadras and that alpha and delta are peripheral quadras at least when it concerns the social power struggle of society.

    http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...ak-center.html
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    lance armstrong is probably estj. he's kind of showy and likes to announce her victories which doesn't strike me as estj, but what the hell, you win the the tour de france that many times and i guess you get to be an asshole. most professional cyclists from america are delta, but i don't think this is so in other nations. i think this has a quadra influence: given cycling's limited interest in america there is not much 'glory' to be had in the us(which attracts Se types), while in european nations it is a much more popular sport and attracts the competitive and status seeking Se types. it attacts humble enthusiastic, but devoted delta types in the U.S. Anyone, i want to say that cycling is awesome because being thin and short is a total fucking boone in the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    Bitch please. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Did you completely forget everything that I told you in that PM a few months ago?

    ..................

    Mademoiselle, please consider the time of that post in relation to our conversation:

    "06-29-2007, 02:30 AM"


    Our pm took place long after that post was written.
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    ..................

    Mademoiselle, please consider the time of that post in relation to our conversation:

    "06-29-2007, 02:30 AM"


    Our pm took place long after that post was written.

    Heh, sorry about that. I totally didn't notice that this thread was that old. You're forgiven.
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    No problem.
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Gulenko talks about how the Beta/Gamma being central quadras and that alpha and delta are peripheral quadras at least when it concerns the social power struggle of society.

    http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...ak-center.html

    The article happens to reference a lot of other information, he cites certain figures in society that are known along with his self-typings. Also he describes cultures of the west and east as well as aspects of Taoism and even Machiavelli's the Prince (From what I know of Machiavelli, one might wish to read Discorsi as well since it gives a different perspective on his thoughts.)

    He's assuming that you would understand these topics before you approach the article, or at least research what one does not understand.

    I don't necessarily agree with his conclusions which I'm not sure he's even settled on, but I have made similar observations on the power dynamics present in society.
    Why did you quote me to say that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    How does this remotely have anything to do with , at all? Also, I have no idea what you're referring to with UDP and Gilly. Speak up.
    I was referring to the disclosure of PM contents. I was making a correlation between UDP's pasting PMs between he and Gilly (which Gilly got rather upset about, and challenged UDP's Fi dual seeking, because he thought no Fi dual seeking would do such a thing), and your own mention of a private conversation with UDP in a public forum. That's all.
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