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    Is the reason are all irrational types because they are based on an instinctive, primitive mode of living, while are more human?

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    no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Is the reason are all irrational types because they are based on an instinctive, primitive mode of living, while are more human?
    Feeling isn't a natural instinct too?
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    Then why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    Stop going all on us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Is the reason are all irrational types because they are based on an instinctive, primitive mode of living, while are more human?
    Generally people with irrational leading functions are more "perceptive" i.e. they are more likely to observe and be reactive to changes in their environment. People with rational leading functions are more "judging" i.e. they are more likely to be proactive in molding their environment. I don't know if you can conclude that the latter approach is more "human". It is not even that simple as introverted and extroverted types differ in this. E.g. extroverted sensing types are directly connected and reactive to their environment where introverted sensing types sort of "filter" the external sensory information with their body before reacting to that. So they actually do not react to the external stimuli like people but to the sensation it causes in them. In a way it makes them even more irrational. And so on. Perhaps you could say that rational types make decisions in a more conscious way where for irrational types decisions come more subconsciously. Subconscious is not same thing as instincts. This description is probably not completely accurate but something to get discussion going.

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    Cheers, XoX. That's a good theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
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    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Cheers, XoX. That's a good theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?
    lol that's just what Niffweed does. You just gotta get used to it... (bitching about it just tends to make him revert to pure numbers and mathamatical symbols )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?
    I'm not sure why he does that but I have a theory about that too. It is some form of disapproval. He does it pretty often and not only to you. I think the message is that he doesn't respect your questions much. He thinks you talk non-sense which deserves a non-sense answer. It might also be that you have made him a bit grumpy by saying something offensive (this includes something which he considers stupid). In addition it is sort of humor. Really, don't try to change him or reason with him about that. He generally can't be affected. He is likely an INTp and a very sarcastic one too. Even more than usual. Not only that but he is also from New York. But really...don't try to reason with him or "cure" him or understand him even. Either ignore him completely or accept him as he is and laugh at his strange jokes and sarcastic attitude. Those are pretty much the only options for interacting with INTps of his kind. At least in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?
    I'm not sure why he does that but I have a theory about that too. It is some form of disapproval. He does it pretty often and not only to you. I think the message is that he doesn't respect your questions much. He thinks you talk non-sense which deserves a non-sense answer. It might also be that you have made him a bit grumpy by saying something offensive (this includes something which he considers stupid). In addition it is sort of humor. Really, don't try to change him or reason with him about that. He generally can't be affected. He is likely an INTp and a very sarcastic one too. Even more than usual. Not only that but he is also from New York. But really...don't try to reason with him or "cure" him or understand him even. Either ignore him completely or accept him as he is and laugh at his strange jokes and sarcastic attitude. Those are pretty much the only options for interacting with INTps of his kind. At least in my opinion.
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?
    I'm not sure why he does that but I have a theory about that too. It is some form of disapproval. He does it pretty often and not only to you. I think the message is that he doesn't respect your questions much. He thinks you talk non-sense which deserves a non-sense answer. It might also be that you have made him a bit grumpy by saying something offensive (this includes something which he considers stupid). In addition it is sort of humor. Really, don't try to change him or reason with him about that. He generally can't be affected. He is likely an INTp and a very sarcastic one too. Even more than usual. Not only that but he is also from New York. But really...don't try to reason with him or "cure" him or understand him even. Either ignore him completely or accept him as he is and laugh at his strange jokes and sarcastic attitude. Those are pretty much the only options for interacting with INTps of his kind. At least in my opinion.
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    you are by far not the first to call Niffweed autistic (for what it's worth I don't think he is... he's just... um.... Niffweed lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.

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    Of course you could be ESFj and be direct conflictor with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Cheers, XoX. That's a good theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?

    think about it. you're a smart guy, maybe you can figure it out.


    or maybe you lack the socionics knowledge to do so; i don't know you well enough to make that judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Cheers, XoX. That's a good theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Then why?
    because a cheeseburger is composed mostly of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen. these four elements generate sufficient amounts of fatty acids which can be dispensed with and decomposed to create sufficient energy to generate several hundred billion molecules of 1,1,3 triopropyl glyceride out of tetramethane with one amino group and one hydroxyl group.
    niftweed, why are you answering all my questions with shit about cheeseburgers and games?

    think about it. you're a smart guy, maybe you can figure it out.


    or maybe you lack the socionics knowledge to do so; i don't know you well enough to make that judgment.
    I think it's even beyond and to completely figure you out, Niffers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    ISFps You want to have the freedom to have problems with him and to like him at the same time. Only ISFps can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    ISFps You want to have the freedom to have problems with him and to like him at the same time. Only ISFps can do that.
    I don't think I've ever had a problem with Niffweed... have I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    ISFps You want to have the freedom to have problems with him and to like him at the same time. Only ISFps can do that.
    I don't think I've ever had a problem with Niffweed... have I?
    Fine. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    ISFps You want to have the freedom to have problems with him and to like him at the same time. Only ISFps can do that.
    I don't think I've ever had a problem with Niffweed... have I?
    Fine. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    think about it. you're a smart guy, maybe you can figure it out.
    Very witty. You're using an extended metaphor to explain Socionics theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    ISFps You want to have the freedom to have problems with him and to like him at the same time. Only ISFps can do that.
    I don't think I've ever had a problem with Niffweed... have I?
    Fine. Sorry.
    dick

    (JK )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    think about it. you're a smart guy, maybe you can figure it out.
    Very witty. You're using an extended metaphor to explain Socionics theory.
    ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    think about it. you're a smart guy, maybe you can figure it out.
    Very witty. You're using an extended metaphor to explain Socionics theory.
    rofl

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    Dumb bastards.

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    This thread is weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    I fuckin love niffweed; I don't know what this douche is talking about Who has problems with niffweed? Stop talking out of your ass, XoX.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    Me too!
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    This thread is both embarassing for multiple people and utterly hillarious.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    i used to dislike niffweed but now i find him a breath of fresh air from the people with socionics sticks up their asses that seem to be abundant nowadays. it's funny to watch people get all pissy over his answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    This thread is both embarassing for multiple people and utterly hillarious.
    you think i'm embarrased by this thread?

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    Yeah he used to be a little twerp like Phaedrus and Johnathan. Now he actually has a personality
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    This thread is both embarassing for multiple people and utterly hillarious.
    you think i'm embarrased by this thread?
    LOL not at all. You're the hillarious part. Self-conscious, are we?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    LOL not at all. You're the hillarious part. Self-conscious, are we?
    Unlike the Lemniscate of Bernoulli or the Lemniscate of Booth, the double point at the origin of the Lemniscate of Gerono is not an ordinary double point, having a delta invariant of two. The dual curve (see Plücker formula), pictured below, has therefore a somewhat different character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Yeah he used to be a little twerp like Phaedrus and Johnathan. Now he actually has a personality
    who has personality? (I'm too lazy to go look back at who yer talking about )

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    LOL not at all. You're the hillarious part. Self-conscious, are we?
    Unlike the Lemniscate of Bernoulli or the Lemniscate of Booth, the double point at the origin of the Lemniscate of Gerono is not an ordinary double point, having a delta invariant of two. The dual curve (see Plücker formula), pictured below, has therefore a somewhat different character.
    I afraid I can't accept this... where is the dual curve that supposed to be pictured below? how do I know you aren't just making up this Plücker formula thing? it even sounds like a joke name.

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    dual to lemniscate of gerono, given by picker formula:

    (x² − y²)^3 + 8y^4 + 20x²y² − x^4 − 16y² = 0.





    happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    dual to lemniscate of gerono, given by picker formula:

    (x² − y²)^3 + 8y^4 + 20x²y² − x^4 − 16y² = 0.





    happy?
    yes... thank you. I now see your side of the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    I fuckin love niffweed; I don't know what this douche is talking about Who has problems with niffweed? Stop talking out of your ass, XoX.
    I SAID FINE. It was a mistake and I wasn't trying to put down niffweed or putting words into your mouth or all that. I just got a little carried away. It sometimes happens that I perhaps "talk" too much and all that. And I sort of forget the rules of decent conduct. I'm sorry about that. I was more or less just referring to how Ezra's and niffweeds exchange of arguments reminded me of your and niffweeds exchange of arguments sometime long in the past. I know those more or less were just "innocent" arguments and they do not reflect the state of your current relationship in any way.

    On another topic. Personally I had pretty positive initial experiences with niffweed. I also like several aspects of his personality. He seem very warm and reasonable guy behind is "cold" logical exterior. Apparently very intelligent too even if he uses this intelligent more often to destroy than to create. My relations with him hasn't really evolved in any direction since the beginning though so I cannot say much more.

    Damn I hate this thread. I dislike it when I do such errors of judgment. I was acting weird in all my posts yesterday probably. So you can call it embarrassing if you like. I more or less call it annoying as I'm not really embarrassed but just annoyed at myself and this whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I call it autism.

    I had a feeling that's what he meant: 'you talk bullshit, Ezra, therefore I do'. Well, that's bullshit, because I think all my questions are perfectly reasonable.
    For what its worth Gilly probably shares your opinion on this matter I can come up with three possible explanations for this. You are ESTj in which case he is your supervisor. You are ENFj in which case you are his supervisor. You are ENTp and his contrary in which case your relations is more or less unstable and neither of you can respect the other's point of view in the end. Alphas seem to have most problems with his attitude and this includes all Alpha types here from ISFp to ENTp.
    I like Niffweed
    I fuckin love niffweed; I don't know what this douche is talking about Who has problems with niffweed? Stop talking out of your ass, XoX.
    I SAID FINE. It was a mistake and I wasn't trying to put down niffweed or putting words into your mouth or all that. I just got a little carried away. It sometimes happens that I perhaps "talk" too much and all that. And I sort of forget the rules of decent conduct. I'm sorry about that. I was more or less just referring to how Ezra's and niffweeds exchange of arguments reminded me of your and niffweeds exchange of arguments sometime long in the past. I know those more or less were just "innocent" arguments and they do not reflect the state of your current relationship in any way.

    On another topic. Personally I had pretty positive initial experiences with niffweed. I also like several aspects of his personality. He seem very warm and reasonable guy behind is "cold" logical exterior. Apparently very intelligent too even if he uses this intelligent more often to destroy than to create. My relations with him hasn't really evolved in any direction since the beginning though so I cannot say much more.

    Damn I hate this thread. I dislike it when I do such errors of judgment. I was acting weird in all my posts yesterday probably. So you can call it embarrassing if you like. I more or less call it annoying as I'm not really embarrassed but just annoyed at myself and this whole thing.

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