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    • is related to open-mindedness, and to imaginativeness
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to efficiency, and to stability
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to space-capturing, and to space-mastering.
    • is friendly, is hostile
    • is related to expressiveness, is related to ethicalness
    • is friendly, is hostile

    Therefore :
    • Alpha is Friendly
    • Gamma is Hostile

    that's funny, isn't that ?

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    I'd say that, from all the elements, only could be described as "friendly".

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    that's funny, isn't that ?
    With you being in Alpha and all, yeah...

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    It's no wonder you perceive gamma as hostile when you're slating them all the time.
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    you can reformulate this slightly and say that the alphas have introvert external functions, and the gammas have extrovert external functions... this is a handy thing to notice.

    Most people seem to acknowlegde the notion that external functions (T, S) are generally harsher and more confrontational than internal ones (F, N).

    So going with this example alphas focus their harshness completely on introvert functions, while gammas do the opposite.

    I imagine this manifests in life in the following way:

    A gamma who criticizes an idea might say: "THIS and THAT are wrong with your ideas and cause THIS and THAT problem, go fix."

    while an alpha might (implicitly) say instead: "I evaluate your idea as a whole and conclude that it sucks. (explains the problem with a number of abstract perpectives) now if you don't see it yourself you're doomed and I can not help you."

    So, are gamma's meaner than alphas? If you look with tunnel vision at the realm of debate where extrovert functions decide the course of things, they may very well seem that way.

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    Gammas are hostile and distant, everybody knows that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Gammas are hostile and distant, everybody knows that lol
    And you're a moron with a chip on your shoulder. Get over it. And stop pulling crap out of your arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSpin
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Gammas are hostile and distant, everybody knows that lol
    And you're a moron with a chip on your shoulder. Get over it. And stop pulling crap out of your arse.
    i salute you for replacing me in the line of duty. i don't want to expose myself to his posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Gammas are hostile and distant, everybody knows that lol
    Now this I really can't work out the answer to - do you genuinely believe what you post or are you simply doing it to get reactions? Is the lol at the end one of "Come laugh with me, indulge in the humour!" or one of "hahaha, I feel so superior, I hate gamma because they're hostile towards me because I slate them all the time"? Not that the answer is hugely important to me, but you know, curiosity and whatnot. Always the whatnot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    • is related to open-mindedness, and to imaginativeness
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to efficiency, and to stability
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to space-capturing, and to space-mastering.
    • is friendly, is hostile
    • is related to expressiveness, is related to ethicalness
    • is friendly, is hostile

    Therefore :
    • Alpha is Friendly
    • Gamma is Hostile

    that's funny, isn't that ?
    You can't possibly be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    • is related to open-mindedness, and to imaginativeness
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to efficiency, and to stability
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to space-capturing, and to space-mastering.
    • is friendly, is hostile
    • is related to expressiveness, is related to ethicalness
    • is friendly, is hostile

    Therefore :
    • Alpha is Friendly
    • Gamma is Hostile
    There is some truth to this, so don't dismiss it as bullshit. It is clearly more correct than if we reverse the statements above.

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    sweet I'm friendly[sup:618f1e0a0f]2[/sup:618f1e0a0f]

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSpin
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Gammas are hostile and distant, everybody knows that lol
    And you're a moron with a chip on your shoulder. Get over it. And stop pulling crap out of your arse.
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    • is related to open-mindedness, and to imaginativeness
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to efficiency, and to stability
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to space-capturing, and to space-mastering.
    • is friendly, is hostile
    • is related to expressiveness, is related to ethicalness
    • is friendly, is hostile

    Therefore :
    • Alpha is Friendly
    • Gamma is Hostile

    that's funny, isn't that ?
    You can't possibly be serious.
    It was only a stupid joke to explain how Alphas percieve Gammas. Alphas are very friendly by their nature.

    Alphas are like that :

    ILE : original, creative, super-cool => friendly
    SEI : sweet, modest, doesn't complain => friendly
    ESE : enthusiastic, funny, renders Alphas even more cool than they already are => friendly
    LII : objective but not merciless, may be empathetic => friendly

    Gammas are like that :

    SEE : pushy, may take life for a video game, only wants to harm others for fun => hostile
    ILI : misanthropic, very distant, heartless, egocentric, and unsociable => hostile
    LIE : puts everyone under pressure, because he's basically an aggressive withdrawn loner => hostile
    ESI : believes that life is only a marketplace, may be reckless, especially males => hostile

    [b]And that IS a joke.[b]

    Sociability is not related to Extrotimness or Ethics, but on Alpha. lololololololol

    Alpha : most friendly
    Beta : average
    Delta : average
    Gamma : most hostile

    And that IS another joke.

    EDIT: sorry for that mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    • is related to open-mindedness, and to imaginativeness
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to efficiency, and to stability
    • is friendly, is hostile.
    • is related to space-capturing, and to space-mastering.
    • is friendly, is hostile
    • is related to expressiveness, is related to ethicalness
    • is friendly, is hostile

    Therefore :
    • Alpha is Friendly
    • Gamma is Hostile

    that's funny, isn't that ?
    You can't possibly be serious.
    It was only a stupid joke to explain how Alphas percieve Gammas. Alphas are very friendly by their nature.

    Alphas are like that :

    ILE : original, creative, super-cool => friendly
    SEI : sweet, modest, doesn't complain => friendly
    ESE : enthusiastic, funny, renders Alphas even more cool than they already are => friendly
    LII : objective but not merciless, may be empathetic => friendly

    Gammas are like that :

    SEE : pushy, may take life for a video game, only wants to harm others for fun => hostile
    ILI : misanthropic, very distant, heartless, egocentric, and unsociable => hostile
    LIE : puts everyone under pressure, because he's basically an aggressive withdrawn loner => hostile
    ESI : believes that life is only a marketplace, may be reckless, especially males => hostile

    [b]And that IS a joke, dude.[b]

    Sociability is not related to Extrotimness or Ethics, but on Alpha. lololololololol

    Alpha : most friendly
    Beta : average
    Delta : average
    Gamma : most hostile

    And that IS another joke, dude.
    I don't think you realize your jokes are not funny. They're just wasting space on general discussions.
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    I think I have to agree... put joke posts into Anything Goes and they will be correctly percieved as jokes. Putting them in General Discussion is just going to piss people off.

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    If it was meant as only a joke, it was a really bad one, since there is clearly some truth in the comparison between Alpha and Gamma. To belong to a critical quadra means that most people perceive you as more hostile (on average) than if you belong to a non-critical quadra like Alpha, even if we have no intention of being hostile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    If it was meant as only a joke, it was a really bad one, since there is clearly some truth in the comparison between Alpha and Gamma. To belong to a critical quadra means that most people perceive you as more hostile (on average) than if you belong to a non-critical quadra like Alpha, even if we have no intention of being hostile.
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    This reminds me of the general stance towards beta.

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    The jokes are biased imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Gammas are like that :

    SEE : pushy, may take life for a video game, only wants to harm others for fun => hostile
    ILI : misanthropic, very distant, heartless, egocentric, and unsociable => hostile
    LIE : puts everyone under pressure, because he's basically an aggressive withdrawn loner => hostile
    ESI : believes that life is only a marketplace, may be reckless, especially males => hostile
    The bold bits are simply wrong, the others have some truth to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Gammas are like that :

    SEE : pushy, may take life for a video game, only wants to harm others for fun => hostile
    ILI : misanthropic, very distant, heartless, egocentric, and unsociable => hostile
    LIE : puts everyone under pressure, because he's basically an aggressive withdrawn loner => hostile
    ESI : believes that life is only a marketplace, may be reckless, especially males => hostile
    The bold bits are simply wrong, the others have some truth to it.
    Still. They are biased against Gammas IMO. He's just out to insult Gammas. And that's just plain shallow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Gammas are like that :

    SEE : pushy, may take life for a video game, only wants to harm others for fun => hostile
    ILI : misanthropic, very distant, heartless, egocentric, and unsociable => hostile
    LIE : puts everyone under pressure, because he's basically an aggressive withdrawn loner => hostile
    ESI : believes that life is only a marketplace, may be reckless, especially males => hostile
    The bold bits are simply wrong, the others have some truth to it.
    Still. They are biased against Gammas IMO. He's just out to insult Gammas. And that's just plain shallow.
    I don't have anything against Gammas, I was joking.

    Gammas tend to behave as hostile, that's true...........when unhealthy although.

    It's like when that socionist said "unhealthy rationals tend to ignore reality"

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