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    To the ancient Greeks, the Gods and Goddesses of the world were not just real beings but also archetypes in their own right and anthropomorphic representations of the very forces of the world around them. While at times these deities may seem to be incapable of being typed due to contradictions or different depictions, but again since they exist as archetypes, I would think that they are capable of being typed.

    Zeus: ENTj
    Poseidon: ISTj
    Hades: INTj
    Hera: ISFj
    Demeter: INFj
    Persephone: ESFj
    Artemis: INFp
    Apollo: INFp
    Athena: ENFj
    Hephaestus: ISTp
    Ares: ESTp
    Aphrodite: ESFp
    Hermes: ENTp
    Dionysus: ISFp
    Hestia: ENFp
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    i'm not going to say much because my knowledge of greek mythology is very limited, but i can say with certainty that some of these typings aren't even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    i'm not going to say much because my knowledge of greek mythology is very limited, but i can say with certainty that some of these typings aren't even close.
    Good. Now start pulling names and writing explanations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Zeus: ENTj
    you think zeus was a rational type? with all those affairs with humans?

    i dunno what type he was, but he definitely wasn't an ESI's dual.

    Artemis: INFp
    the hyper-aggressive, goddess of the hunt. does this suggest NiFe to you?

    Hestia: ENFp
    goddess of the hearth. gave up some important position to dionysius out of the kindness of her heart. the god of a comfortable environment. if this extremely simplistic information suggests something other than Fe and Si, we have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
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    Zeus: ENTj
    you think zeus was a rational type? with all those affairs with humans?

    i dunno what type he was, but he definitely wasn't an ESI's dual.

    Artemis: INFp
    the hyper-aggressive, goddess of the hunt. does this suggest NiFe to you?

    Hestia: ENFp
    goddess of the hearth. gave up some important position to dionysius out of the kindness of her heart. the god of a comfortable environment. if this extremely simplistic information suggests something other than Fe and Si, we have a problem.
    Incidently, these were three of my hardest.

    Zeus: Rational types can have a lot of sex, but I understand your point well enough. I know that he values in his quadra, which eliminates Alpha and Delta. But I thought that he was dominant, but I can see him as an ISTj or ESTp who rationalizes through his conquests over the hearts and bodies of mortal women.

    Artemis: ESTp then? Probably the God she has the best relations with is her brother, Apollo. I also thought that ENFj was another possibility, but I was unsure as to how similar her personality was with Athena, who I also had as an ENFj. I then just decided to have her as the identical of her brother, who also has psycho tendencies.

    Hestia: I am fine with that - ISFp. She seems very soft-spoken. I was just again unsure of how compatible peaceful Hestia (ISFp) was with party-animal Dionysus (ISFp).
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    Zeus: a very clear ESTp-Ti of the Napoleon or Marlon Brando sort -- not aggressive as long as he doesn't have to show who's boss; liking to sleep around but otherwise not too impulsive in a self-destructive way.

    Hera: a very obvious ISFj-Se, she can't be anything else, and her marriage to Zeus is a clear example of such a marriage where divorce isn't an option.

    Poseidon: similar to Zeus, but probably already more like ISTj-Se.

    Hades: yes INTj makes sense.

    Ares: ESTp-Se of the street gang leader, desperately-in-need-of-an-INFp-to-prevent-him-from-getting-into-trouble, self-destructive sort.

    Hephaestus: yes, ISTp.

    Artemis: more like ISTp.

    Apollo: good call on the "psycho" tendencies but probably more like ENFj (yes it makes him his sister's conflictor, but still)

    Hermes: EP temperament, Alpha or Delta, ENTp or ENFp, I incline towards the latter.

    Athena: ENFj makes sense, but I'm thinking of ISTj, too.

    Aphrodite: yes, ESFp.

    Dionysious: ISFp-Fe.

    Demeter: ESFj.

    Hestia: ISFp-Si.
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    I do think that the Greek gods can be typed if you stick mainly to Homer, if you add up too many sources it may get too complicated.

    I don't think that any god is close to ENTj or ESTj, perhaps Hermes would be closest to ENTj-Ni. The ENTj character in greek mythology is Odysseus.
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    How about:

    Achilles
    Priam
    Hector
    Paris
    Helen
    Agamemnon
    Ajax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    How about:

    Achilles
    Priam
    Hector
    Paris
    Helen
    Agamemnon
    Ajax?
    Ooo. But they're not gods. :wink:
    INTp
    sx/sp

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    Achilles :The one in the Iliad (not Brad Pitt in Troy) was the ultimate in manic-energy, independent, hot-headed, vindictive ESFp-Se.

    Priam: some Delta, perhaps INFj.

    Hector: ESTj

    Paris: INFp

    Helen: INFp or INTp

    Agamemnon: ISTj

    Ajax: ESTp-Se
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Artemis: INFp
    the hyper-aggressive, goddess of the hunt. does this suggest NiFe to you?
    Why hyper-aggressive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Achilles :The one in the Iliad (not Brad Pitt in Troy) was the ultimate in manic-energy, independent, hot-headed, vindictive ESFp-Se.
    Haha. Ooh, I dunno, Pitt doesn't seem too far from the real thing. He's hot-headed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Artemis: INFp
    the hyper-aggressive, goddess of the hunt. does this suggest NiFe to you?
    Why hyper-aggressive?
    that's the way i remember her from studying this stuff long long ago. my recolection of all of them may just be rusty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    that's the way i remember her from studying this stuff long long ago. my recolection of all of them may just be rusty.
    Ah. She did turn an unfortunate peeping tom, who caught her bathing, into a deer, who then got killed by dogs, but otherwise seemed content to be away from everyone. In the Iliad, while Artemis was fighting to defend the Trojans, Hera easily kicked her ass and sent her away crying.
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    I read these books in fifth grade. Need to re-read 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    that's the way i remember her from studying this stuff long long ago. my recolection of all of them may just be rusty.
    Ah. She did turn an unfortunate peeping tom, who caught her bathing, into a deer, who then got killed by dogs, but otherwise seemed content to be away from everyone. In the Iliad, while Artemis was fighting to defend the Trojans, Hera easily kicked her ass and sent her away crying.
    Part of it is that she has a tendency to be incredibly protective of her nymphs and fellow virgins. As an aside, the only mortal who came close to potentially breaking into her chastity belt was Orion, so it is possible that Orion would have been either her dual or possibly identical.

    But why do you see Apollo as ENFj over INFp and ENFp over ENTp for Hermes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    that's the way i remember her from studying this stuff long long ago. my recolection of all of them may just be rusty.
    Ah. She did turn an unfortunate peeping tom, who caught her bathing, into a deer, who then got killed by dogs, but otherwise seemed content to be away from everyone. In the Iliad, while Artemis was fighting to defend the Trojans, Hera easily kicked her ass and sent her away crying.
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    Perhaps Artemis is an ESTj...
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    I have to say this thread is good stuff. I wish I could remember more about Greek mythology.

    Here is a thread on Antigone for anyone who's interested:

    http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...light=antigone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos

    But why do you see Apollo as ENFj over INFp and ENFp over ENTp for Hermes?
    On Apollo as ENFj -- basically the EJ rather than IP temperament; however I can see the case for INFp too.

    ENFp for Hermes -- I get a slightly higher Delta vibe than Alpha, although not very much. His role as god of commerce and guide of the shadows of the dead strikes me as more Delta, although in the Odyssey he seems perhaps more ENTp. I'll settle for Ne EP.

    For those thinking that it's a geek as well as Greek thing -- actually the Greeks had very clear ideas of their gods' personalities, and how they interacted, and for instance, the Hera-Zeus marriage as being ISFj-ESTp is so obvious as to be funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    I read these books in fifth grade. Need to re-read 'em.
    Read the full versions of the Iliad and the Odyssey - they got everything. The origin of western culture.
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    Have the human characters in Homer been typed yet?
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Have the human characters in Homer been typed yet?
    Just take a look at the previous page.
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    A few more, then --

    Odysseus - ENTj
    Penelope - ISFj
    Menelaus - probably ISTj
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    Ah, thanks. I think Telemachus was probably INFj?

    On a related note: I managed to find Alexander Pope's translation of the Iliad today in a secondhand bookstore. I was proud of my find.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Ah, thanks. I think Telemachus was probably INFj?
    Not sure -- perhaps ENFp makes more sense.
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    That's more likely, yeah. He doesn't seem like he'd have a Se-polr.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    are we including human beings now? if so,

    prometheus: entp

    if someone hasn't already said so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    are we including human beings now? if so,

    prometheus: entp

    if someone hasn't already said so.
    Uh -- he wasn't human, he was divine, a Titan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    are we including human beings now? if so,

    prometheus: entp

    if someone hasn't already said so.
    Uh -- he wasn't human, he was divine, a Titan.
    I suppose we can do titans now, unless there are some additional gods we have forgotten. We could also do Greek heroes too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    are we including human beings now? if so,

    prometheus: entp

    if someone hasn't already said so.
    Uh -- he wasn't human, he was divine, a Titan.
    really? my bad then. i thot for sure he was human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    are we including human beings now? if so,

    prometheus: entp

    if someone hasn't already said so.
    Uh -- he wasn't human, he was divine, a Titan.
    really? my bad then. i thot for sure he was human.
    He gave fire to humanity, hence not human.

    The whole idea of Prometheus, if not the character, is very Alpha-Democratic.

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    I was thinking that Prometheus would be more Delta.
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    Hermes is an obvious ENT, both ENTp and ENTj can apply.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Hermes is an obvious ENT, both ENTp and ENTj can apply.
    I don't really disagree, but why not ENFp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I was thinking that Prometheus would be more Delta.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I was thinking that Prometheus would be more Delta.
    Why?
    Well I was thinking of the general Delta, especially ENFp, inclination towards seeing and promoting people's potential, that's why the stereotypical NGO do-gooder type is Delta; however, I am now thinking that when applied to humankind as a whole, as in Prometheus's case, perhaps fits better than . So never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Hermes is an obvious ENT, both ENTp and ENTj can apply.
    I don't really disagree, but why not ENFp?
    I think merchantry is a very thinking type skill. ENFps with Te hidden agenda need help in that matter. So a god of merchants can't be somebody that needs help in his own peculiarity, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I think merchantry is a very thinking type skills. ENFps with Te hidden agenda need help in that matter. So a god of merchants can't be somebody that needs help in his own peculiarity, imho.
    Ah yes, from that point of view, I fully agree -- my impression of ENFp is rather how he comes across as a character in Homer and elsewhere, rather than from his attributes as god of trade (and his role as guide of the shadows of the dead in the underworld is, again, more ENFp).
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