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    I think mcnew had some posts on this.

    Left brain is traditionally related to logical processes, Right brain to creative/artistic processes

    To find out which brain dominates you you should fold your hands and see which thumb naturally lands atop the other.

    What do you think of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    To find out which brain dominates you you should fold your hands and see which thumb naturally lands atop the other.
    this part is just insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Left brain is traditionally related to logical processes, Right brain to creative/artistic processes
    The study of brain function lateralization has come a long way since this. Both logical and artistic competence are largely dependent on successful coordination between both hemispheres - not dependence on either of the two. For almost all people, verbal function is localized in the left hemisphere. Expressve language deficit corresponds to damage to Broca's region of the brain. Receptive language deficit corresponds to damage to Wernicke's region. Obviously, these regions are very important to poets, writers, journalists, actors, speakers, etc. Visual information is percieved and processed in an area that extends across both hemispheres (Brodmann area 17). The brain is a complex and surprisingly resilient thing, though - processes localized in one part of the brain are often taken over by another following damage or surgery.

    At best the pop-psychology take on the supposed "right brain"/"left brain" dichomoty is nothing but another theoretic construct, not unlike the Socionics dichomoties, that bears no actual physiological manifestation. The hand-dominance, occular dominance, thumb-dominance links to specific personality traits/skills are very, very messy business and disgustingly oversimplified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Left brain is traditionally related to logical processes, Right brain to creative/artistic processes
    This is simply not true. There is not a neuroscientist in the world who would say that.
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    Left-thumb.

    I'm highly skeptical that this will work determining the side of the brain most of my thoughts develop in. Nevertheless the criteria for one side being focused on logic and verbalization and the other on "creativity" and emotion is just a poorly extrapolated simplification: this is a misrepresentation of what the left and right brain do. Basically, the right-side of the brain deals with a wide-picture and global relation, the left-side of the brain deals with details and specifications. I am probably not explaining the difference very well, but this paper sheds some light on the relation.

    http://www.rense.com/general2/rb.htm
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    Left.

    Nothing to do with anything. Long-term muscle usage or tension, limb assymetry, habit...there are any number of other, more likely causes.
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    I tested the thumb hypothesis some time ago on 5-10 people whose types I know. So far I have only found right thumb dominance (indicating left brain dominance) in rational types, for example my ISFj partner. Maybe left thumb dominance is more common, I don't know, but I have found it in the irrational types and some of the rational ones, for example an ENTj.

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    My right thumb is on top. FWIW.

    But when I join my hands behind my back, in the typical Mr Spock posture, my left hand holds the right one.

    In almost everything I am right-handed, but when dealing cards I use my left hand.

    Also, I am fairly comfortable writing with my left hand on blackboards and such, but not small letters with a pen.

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    My handedness...

    When writing or doing something which requires fine motoric skills I use my left hand
    When I fold my hands my right thumb lands on top.
    When I use an ice hockey stick my right hand is lower and thus I use a "right handed" ice hockey stick
    When I box my right hand is the leading hand and left hand is the power punch hand i.e. I have the "left-handed" or "reversed" style
    When I kick a soccer ball I prefer my left foot
    When I throw a basketball or darts or javelin I prefer left hand

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    Augusta said :

    Judgers : Left = Statics, Right = Dynamics
    Percievers : Left = Dynamics, Right = Statics

    Gulenko said :

    Left = Sensing and Logic
    Right = Intuition and Ethics

    (unknown) said :

    Left = Intuition and Logic
    Right = Sensing and Ethics

    (unknown) said :

    Left = Statics
    Right = Dynamics

    (unknown) said :

    complicated distribution

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    I have noticed some interesting correlations among things that are usually related to right and left-brain...for example...

    people that are better at essays as opposed to people that are better at strict mathematics are also better at dribbling in football and have more body coordination but are also poorer shooters in basketball and football; also they are usually good dancers but they lack torque over longer runs and they have better musical skills

    people that are better at strict maths and very linear and orderly subjects are also much more skilled at scoring in football and basketball but they follow a stricly linear path towards the goal and thus are easily stopped along the road, also they are poor dancers but they can sustain a stable output for longer runs so they are more apt at say, running the 800 meters
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Augusta said :

    Judgers : Left = Statics, Right = Dynamics
    Percievers : Left = Dynamics, Right = Statics
    This is contradictory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Left brain is traditionally related to logical processes, Right brain to creative/artistic processes
    This is simply not true. There is not a neuroscientist in the world who would say that.
    I think it's true that it's been popular to think of these things in years past, whether its bullshit or not aside.

    Recently a guy a know came over to talk to me about what he learned in his basic psychology course, taken at as plain a private university as any. *shrug*

    Quote Originally Posted by baby
    For almost all people, verbal function is localized in the left hemisphere. Expressve language deficit corresponds to damage to Broca's region of the brain. Receptive language deficit corresponds to damage to Wernicke's region. Obviously, these regions are very important to poets, writers, journalists, actors, speakers, etc.
    this supports certain areas of the brain being responsible for certain abilities that can be put into constructs then? Not sure where the Broca's region is.

    Is being right handed still a sign of right brain dominance?

    Btw, I just find talk about hands so gratifying. This makes it worth posting in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Left brain is traditionally related to logical processes, Right brain to creative/artistic processes
    This is simply not true. There is not a neuroscientist in the world who would say that.
    I think it's true that it's been popular to think of these things in years past, whether its bullshit or not aside.

    Recently a guy a know came over to talk to me about what he learned in his basic psychology course, taken at as plain a private university as any. *shrug*
    I think it started off as a misinterpretations of sorts a long time ago, but although all the evidence points away from that, the little theory still presists thanks to everyone having their own websites.

    It's like still thinking the earth is flat and the sun revolves around us.

    Quote Originally Posted by baby
    For almost all people, verbal function is localized in the left hemisphere. Expressve language deficit corresponds to damage to Broca's region of the brain. Receptive language deficit corresponds to damage to Wernicke's region. Obviously, these regions are very important to poets, writers, journalists, actors, speakers, etc.
    this supports certain areas of the brain being responsible for certain abilities that can be put into constructs then? Not sure where the Broca's region is.
    Left brain.

    Is being right handed still a sign of right brain dominance?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Is being right handed still a sign of right brain dominance?
    Isn't the right side of the brain responsible for the actions of the left side of the body, and vice versa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Btw, I just find talk about hands so gratifying. This makes it worth posting in the thread.
    :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Is being right handed still a sign of right brain dominance?
    Isn't the right side of the brain responsible for the actions of the left side of the body, and vice versa?
    Yes, but for some reason that doesn't predict hand dominance. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Btw, I just find talk about hands so gratifying. This makes it worth posting in the thread.
    :wink:
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    FWIW, i'm left-handed, my left thumb lands on top, and i'm generally pretty poor at using my right hand for anything.


    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Early college a large number of my friends were left-handed, and I found that kind of interesting. Also, my brother, and all of my male cousins (but none of the females) on my dad's side are left-handed.
    yeah, i've noticed the same pattern among my friends. the main advantage was that we never bumped elbows/had awkward seating when we'd all go out to eat together.

    on my dad's side of the family, there are more left-handed females. on my mom's side, more left-handed males.
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