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    Default What types do Betas get on the Enneagram?

    There is one for Delta...want to know what most Beta's get on enneagram.

    If any other quadra wants to share here go ahead I don't care.
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    I had a little help...but came up with 6w7, but I also concidering 4w3.

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    So any other INFp get this as their enneagram combination? Or close? This could help with trying to find socionics type maybe...
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    type 4 is a pretty prototypical INFp. in my mind, a type 6 INFp would be rather unusual, but not necessarily a complete impossibility.

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    Not a 4 for you...positive outlook triad...2 or 9 or 7;

    I can't see you as a 2 or 9,

    my conclusion is that you're likely a 7w6 O_O
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    4 seems typical for infp. 8 typical for estp. 1 for enfj. 9 for istj.

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    ENFj: 2, 3, 6, 8
    ISTj: 1, 5, 6
    ESTp: 7, 8
    INFp: 3, 4, 5

    Something to that effect.
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    There are many ESTp 3s unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Not a 4 for you...positive outlook triad...2 or 9 or 7;

    I can't see you as a 2 or 9,

    my conclusion is that you're likely a 7w6 O_O
    Which seems to be what most ENFp's around her are...eh?


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    I'm a 4, probably with a 5 wing. Next highest scores were 6, 9 and 1.
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    I'm a 3w4 INFp with a strong Fe lean


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    A 5w4 with the fact that I haven't really studied the enneagram in depth.

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    Another 5w4 here. 4, 9, and 7 being the next highest scores in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    1 for enfj. 9 for istj.
    I can't see 9 for ISTj at all.

    1 for ENFj makes sense only in as far as all rationals could identify a bit with 1, but ENFj is certainly not the "typical" 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I can't see 9 for ISTj at all.
    Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I can't see 9 for ISTj at all.
    Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
    Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1. Instead of saying "Impossible" to things that exist. FIRST COMES REALITY THEN YOUR MIND, OK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I can't see 9 for ISTj at all.
    Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
    Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1. Instead of saying "Impossible" to things that exist. FIRST COMES REALITY THEN YOUR MIND, OK?
    Those ISTjs that you think are 9w1s are most likely 1w9s in that case. No ISTj is a 9. And that's a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1.
    FDG, I have a bit of difficulty with this. 9s are said to put a lot of value on "keeping the peace" ie avoid confrontations, which is hardly a core feature of ISTjs.

    Ok, what you seem to saying is that a Ti-ISTj, being closer to INTj, would not be that keen on (unnecessary) confrontations and a 9w1 would have enough of "1" to be more like someone who avoids unnecessary confrontations rather than skip them all -- I can see that, theoretically, but it seems more like a overlap stretching the types as much as possible, and focusing on behavior rather than motivations. My 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I can't see 9 for ISTj at all.
    Neither can I. That's an impossible combination. Prototypical for 9 is the ISFp.
    Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1. Instead of saying "Impossible" to things that exist. FIRST COMES REALITY THEN YOUR MIND, OK?
    Those ISTjs that you think are 9w1s are most likely 1w9s in that case. No ISTj is a 9. And that's a fact.
    AHAAAHAH ONLY IN YOUR MIND AND IN YOUR LITTLE BASEMENT FULL OF CRAPPY SIMULATIONS. GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND INTERACT WITH REAL HUMAN BEINGS.

    Expat: ah, yeah, I only focus on behaviour when typing, so you are right that in that sense it can be considered a "stretch".
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    I only focus on behaviour when typing,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Maybe you should start going around the world and observe it. There are ISTj-Ti 9w1.
    FDG, I have a bit of difficulty with this. 9s are said to put a lot of value on "keeping the peace" ie avoid confrontations, which is hardly a core feature of ISTjs.

    Ok, what you seem to saying is that a Ti-ISTj, being closer to INTj, would not be that keen on (unnecessary) confrontations and a 9w1 would have enough of "1" to be more like someone who avoids unnecessary confrontations rather than skip them all -- I can see that, theoretically, but it seems more like a overlap stretching the types as much as possible, and focusing on behavior rather than motivations. My 2 cents.
    It seems to me that having the socionic and Enneagram types correspond all or even most of the time is assuming too much about the relationship between the two systems. Isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    It seems to me that having the socionic and Enneagram types correspond all or even most of the time is assuming too much about the relationship between the two systems. Isn't it?
    I don't see it as "relationship between the two systems". As I have stated a few times, I think the 16 Socionics types come closest to all models usually discussed here to describe reality in terms of people, their motivations, their behavior, and their relationships.

    The 9 Enneagram types also describe people's motivations, so if you use that as reference point, surely you can see which Enneagram types correspond, more or less well, to Socionics types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    It seems to me that having the socionic and Enneagram types correspond all or even most of the time is assuming too much about the relationship between the two systems. Isn't it?
    I don't see it as "relationship between the two systems". As I have stated a few times, I think the 16 Socionics types come closest to all models usually discussed here to describe reality in terms of people, their motivations, their behavior, and their relationships.

    The 9 Enneagram types also describe people's motivations, so if you use that as reference point, surely you can see which Enneagram types correspond, more or less well, to Socionics types.

    Yet again, I love how you say thing so I don't have to :wink:
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    This girl at work who is obsessed with Enneagram "typed" me. I'm apparently a 9, with a 1 wing. She said a lot of other stuff I didn't quite understand.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    This girl at work who is obsessed with Enneagram "typed" me. I'm apparently a 9, with a 1 wing.
    That makes perfect sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    She said a lot of other stuff I didn't quite understand.
    Was she drunk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    She said a lot of other stuff I didn't quite understand.
    Was she drunk?
    lol, not at the time. But she started to correlate Enneagram with some of the more obscure aspects of astrology and lost me after she told me I was born in the "Week of the Loner."
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    "Week of the Loner."

    loooool




    I don't even contribute to my own thread...I guess I just wanted Beta to tell me their Ennegram types, and that was sucessful.
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    Default Enneagram Types for All Betas

    The initial title of this thread was going to be "EIE Fours & IEI Sixes". Then I had a few brainwaves and changed it.

    After having talked to a good friend who is definitely an EIE, and who has gone from Seven to Four, I've been forced to conclude that EIEs can be Fours. Now that I think about it, it makes a lot of sense. Calling all Fours IPs is too restrictive.

    Likewise, I'm comfortable with the idea of an IEI Six.

    Obviously, while types such as Eight can be both LSI and SLE, other types, such as the One and the Seven, cannot move interchangeably between LSI (One) and SLE (Seven). But there are certain types which fit nicely.

    So, as a brief summary of Beta and Enneagram:



    For the types listed, there are no "more or less likely" types - there are just possibilities and impossibilities for each.

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    what about 3 and 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    what about 3 and 9?
    Shit, I didn't even think about that.

    No to Nine.

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    yes to nine. also think about EIE 7s and EIE 2s.

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    IEI 9, maybe.

    You should add 3; I think it is possible for any of the Beta types to be 3s, although in terms of frequency I would say EIE>SLE>IEI>LSI; I think that a lot of LSIs who seem like 3s can easily be called 1w2s, but I am willing to bet that there are LSI 3s out there.

    Does everyone else think its safe to assume that most EIEs who appear to be 1-ishly rigid are probably sp 3s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    yes to nine.
    Find me a Beta Nine.

    also think about EIE 7s and EIE 2s.
    Eurgh, like who?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    You should add 3; I think it is possible for any of the Beta types to be 3s, although in terms of frequency I would say EIE>SLE>IEI>LSI; I think that a lot of LSIs who seem like 3s can easily be called 1w2s, but I am willing to bet that there are LSI 3s out there.
    Yeah, there probably are some Three STs, but I refuse to admit Three IEI.

    Does everyone else think its safe to assume that most EIEs who appear to be 1-ishly rigid are probably sp 3s?
    Potentially, although not necessarily.

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    SLE 378
    LSI 134568

    EIE 12567
    IEI 4569 (But I've never seen IEI Sixes)

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    I know some ISTjs IRL. I'd say subtypes are E1s and subtypes are E5s.
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    LSI 134568
    Four!?

    (But I've never seen IEI Sixes)
    What about krae?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    I know some ISTjs IRL. I'd say subtypes are E1s and subtypes are E5s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    yes to nine. also think about EIE 7s and EIE 2s.
    I agree to that

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    IEI 9, maybe.

    You should add 3; I think it is possible for any of the Beta types to be 3s, although in terms of frequency I would say EIE>SLE>IEI>LSI; I think that a lot of LSIs who seem like 3s can easily be called 1w2s, but I am willing to bet that there are LSI 3s out there.

    Does everyone else think its safe to assume that most EIEs who appear to be 1-ishly rigid are probably sp 3s?
    I honestly think my EIE cousin is a 1. but i am not quite sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post

    Fives are Se subtype? WTF
    Yes, they are! They () are very shy, distrustful and analytical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Find me a Beta Nine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Find me a Beta Nine.
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