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    Default George Orwell V.I and more! (free pr0n)

    .................................................. ........... George Orwell.................................................. ................................











    I assume you know about this person and his work. e.g. Animal farm, 1984. What is his type?


    P.S. motivations and examples of him being IEI is judged more favourable.

    edit; If you make it good. e.g. you pull some trait of orwell, or something he has done (not really important what it is you take from orwell) and no matter how ridiculous or far fetched you tie it together with a trait, a true trait, of an INFp. Then I may throw in some other sites, perhaps take a request...
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    I love his books. They are so sad, particularly 1984.

    I've read Animal Farm and 1984 so far.
    Intuition

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    You can PM me to if you are to embarrassed to write here

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    so... wait. what exactly is this thread? you'll send free porn to whoever writes the best case for orwell being IEI?

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    well, it is like an onion. It has different layers. I will not send free porn as the thread author but as the grateful reader. The thread author want's to discuss orwell's type and literature works. The grateful reader wants only a specific thing. The thread author represents hope and innocence. The grateful reader represents evil and abomination.

    The thread author is yang.

    The grateful reader is yin.




    pssstt! (the grateful reader is the important one)

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    orwell was LSE and his books were not a manifestation of his type but rather of his unhealthy, tormented existed.

    now give me porn.

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    If you elaborate that you are the stronget contestant so far.

    just for your effort I send you a small token.

    check your pm in a minute

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    ungrateful niffweed not even saying thanks.

    note to self
    never be generous on the16types forum ever again..

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    ill say thanks for niff. thanks

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    I don't work for porn, but if you want to know his type let me know.
    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Anyways, INFP seems accurate to me.
    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Default George Orwell



    You probably know him already.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell

    I just read this essay by him recently. It was pretty interesting.
    http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

    He is probably Ni dom. In the article he is talking about the developing flaws in writing throughout the period. Very possible INFp though in the essay I feel like he uses Te a bit.

    What do you think his type is?

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    He's INTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    I feel like 'pulling an Ashton' () and being tautological and saying:"obvious ENFp is obvious" or sth to that effect (j/k, really: P ).

    On a more serious note, yes, i believe him to be ENFp; fairly certain. cheers
    haha... well.... thats not the typing I was expecting. Care to explain yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by neverthesame View Post
    He's INTp.
    This is closer to what I would have guessed. I can at least tell he values Ni.

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    The book is probably favourite by a lot of ISTJ's, since it's quite paranoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    The book is probably favourite by a lot of ISTJ's, since it's quite paranoid.
    As long you type Stalin LSI, the answer is no. Oh yea, as long you type Stalin EIE, the answer is no as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    The book is probably favourite by a lot of ISTJ's, since it's quite paranoid.
    As long you type Stalin LSI, the answer is no. Oh yea, as long you type Stalin EIE, the answer is no as well.
    is there ever a time when you are sober.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post

    As long you type Stalin LSI, the answer is no. Oh yea, as long you type Stalin EIE, the answer is no as well.
    is there ever a time when you are sober.
    It's a trick question I assume. Hah! There is, but seriously. I mean not seriously but really seriously? What is your dying for ? Food, shelter ? Orwells' type ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post

    is there ever a time when you are sober.
    It's a trick question I assume. Hah! There is, but seriously. I mean not seriously but really seriously? What is your dying for ? Food, shelter ? Orwells' type ?
    if they would invent beer that doesn't give hangovers, I could give you the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    if they would invent beer that doesn't give hangovers, I could give you the answer.
    Give me a beer that doesn't invent pneumonia you queer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orwell
    language as an instrument for expressing and not for concealing or preventing thought
    Quote Originally Posted by squark
    01-13-2011, 10:45 AM Explaining things in long round-about complicated ways, regardless of subject matter, makes me feel sick. In my opinion, the more words that are used, the easier it is for the truth to hide. . . Overcomplicated and flowery language, is often just a lot of twists and turns put on a giant steaming pile of shit.
    Whatever type he is, we agree.

    Also, I like his rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Orwell
    I think the following rules will cover most cases:

    (i) Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.

    (ii) Never us a long word where a short one will do.

    (iii) If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.

    (iv) Never use the passive where you can use the active.

    (v) Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.

    (vi) Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
    I'm probably most guilty of using common figures of speech. I think. The other rules are imo part of my natural writing habits anyway.

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    Squark! Great post! As insightful as always
    (D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    I liked his rules too.

    I've personally thought him ISTj for many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Squark! Great post! As insightful as always
    Sigh. I assume sarcasm here?

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    Actually he is istj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    Squark! Great post! As insightful as always
    Sigh. I assume sarcasm here?
    No. If i were to say it you in real life and apologize you wouldnt think its sarcasam; also something about this forum, its pretty negative i wouldnt want you to asumme the worst about me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    I liked his rules too.

    I've personally thought him ISTj for many years.
    Quote Originally Posted by NewBornStar
    Actually he is istj.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by 07490
    No. If i were to say it you you in real life and apologize you wouldnt think its sarcasam; also something about this forum, its pretty negative i wouldnt want you to asumme thw worst about me.
    Okay. Thanks.

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    I've always thought he was an ESTj, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were an ISTj.

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    He looks like Gordon Ramsay and my friends who are ISTj lol

    What kinds of quotes point to and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    I've seen him somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    I've personally thought him ISTj for many years.
    Quote Originally Posted by NewBorn STAR View Post
    Actually he is istj.
    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    He looks like Gordon Ramsay and my friends who are ISTj
    I guess ILI is out. You still type yourself ILI Sumeran ?

    By the way, in 1949 Orwell offered to provide a secret Foreign Office Propaganda Unit linked to the intelligence services with the names of writers who could be trusted to write anti-communist propaganda, and also with the names of writers and journalists whom he regarded as being crypto-communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    I've seen him somewhere.
    He's your son. Don't abandon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    He's your son. Don't abandon.
    Striking resemblance, I think he is my identical. That's why we get along so well with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    He looks like Gordon Ramsay and my friends who are ISTj
    I guess ILI is out. You still type yourself ILI Sumeran ?
    yes. I do. Though I am considering IEI. I wasnt really considering ILI for him. I figured he was IEI but all I could really say for sure was that he was Se/Ni valuing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumer1an View Post
    yes. I do. Though I am considering IEI.
    Oh alright, drop me a line when you're like million percent sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumer1an View Post
    yes. I do. Though I am considering IEI.
    Oh alright, drop me a line when you're like million percent sure.
    Sure thing.

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    or Eric Arthur Blair as @HERO would probably say if starting a new thread.

    I think I must have pick up the typing of IEI and never questioned it since for various reasons.

    I recently found out Rick typed him IEE on his website, and I am also aware of other opinions on the matter.


    Reading about his early life, it does seem easier to me to see him as an IEE than an IEI, and with his 'travel' stories and his novels...diaries and newspaper articles there are quite a few parallels with Mark Twain for example.

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    In 1904, Ida Blair settled with her children at Henley-on-Thames in Oxfordshire. Eric was brought up in the company of his mother and sisters, and apart from a brief visit in the summer of 1907,[14] they did not see the husband and father Richard Blair until 1912.[9] His mother's diary from 1905 describes a lively round of social activity and artistic interests.

    The family moved to Shiplake before the First World War, where Eric became friendly with the Buddicom family, especially their daughter Jacintha. When they first met, he was standing on his head in a field. On being asked why, he said, "You are noticed more if you stand on your head than if you are right way up."[15] Jacintha and Eric read and wrote poetry, and dreamed of becoming famous writers. He said that he might write a book in the style of H. G. Wells's A Modern Utopia. During this period, he also enjoyed shooting, fishing and birdwatching with Jacintha's brother and sister.
    Jacintha Buddicom's account Eric & Us provides an insight into Blair's childhood.[119] She quoted his sister Avril that "he was essentially an aloof, undemonstrative person" and said herself of his friendship with the Buddicoms "I do not think he needed any other friends beyond the schoolfriend he occasionally and appreciatively referred to as 'CC'". She could not recall his having schoolfriends to stay and exchange visits as her brother Prosper often did in holidays.[120] Cyril Connolly provides an account of Blair as a child in Enemies of Promise.[24] Years later, Blair mordantly recalled his prep school in the essay "Such, Such Were the Joys", claiming among other things that he "was made to study like a dog" to earn a scholarship, which he alleged was solely to enhance the school's prestige with parents. Jacintha Buddicom repudiated Orwell's schoolboy misery described in the essay, stating that "he was a specially happy child". She noted that he did not like his name, because it reminded him of a book he greatly disliked - Eric, or, Little by Little, a Victorian boys' school story.[121]

    Connolly remarked of him as a schoolboy, "The remarkable thing about Orwell was that alone among the boys he was an intellectual and not a parrot for he thought for himself".[24] At Eton, John Vaughan Wilkes, his former headmaster's son recalled, "... he was extremely argumentative—about anything—and criticising the masters and criticising the other boys ... We enjoyed arguing with him. He would generally win the arguments—or think he had anyhow."[122] Roger Mynors concurs: "Endless arguments about all sorts of things, in which he was one of the great leaders. He was one of those boys who thought for himself ..."[123]

    Blair liked to carry out practical jokes. Buddicom recalls him swinging from the luggage rack in a railway carriage like an orangutan to frighten a woman passenger out of the compartment.[15] At Eton he played tricks on John Crace, his Master in College, among which was to enter a spoof advertisement in a College magazine implying pederasty.[124] Gow, his tutor, said he "made himself as big a nuisance as he could" and "was a very unattractive boy".[125] Later Blair was expelled from the crammer at Southwold for sending a dead rat as a birthday present to the town surveyor.[126] In one of his As I Please essays he refers to a protracted joke when he answered an advertisement for a woman who claimed a cure for obesity.[127]

    Blair had an enduring interest in natural history which stemmed from his childhood. In letters from school he wrote about caterpillars and butterflies,[128] and Buddicom recalls his keen interest in ornithology. He also enjoyed fishing and shooting rabbits, and conducting experiments as in cooking a hedgehog[15] or shooting down a jackdaw from the Eton roof to dissect it.[123] His zeal for scientific experiments extended to explosives—again Buddicom recalls a cook giving notice because of the noise. Later in Southwold his sister Avril recalled him blowing up the garden. When teaching he enthused his students with his nature-rambles both at Southwold[129] and Hayes.[130] His adult diaries are permeated with his observations on nature.

    Buddicom and Blair lost touch shortly after he went to Burma, and she became unsympathetic towards him. She wrote that it was because of the letters he wrote complaining about his life, but an addendum to Eric & Us by Venables reveals that he may have lost sympathy through an incident which was at best a clumsy seduction.[15]

    Mabel Fierz, who later became Blair's confidante, said: "He used to say the one thing he wished in this world was that he'd been attractive to women. He liked women and had many girlfriends I think in Burma. He had a girl in Southwold and another girl in London. He was rather a womaniser, yet he was afraid he wasn't attractive."[131]

    Brenda Salkield (Southwold) preferred friendship to any deeper relationship and maintained a correspondence with Blair for many years, particularly as a sounding board for his ideas. She wrote: "He was a great letter writer. Endless letters, and I mean when he wrote you a letter he wrote pages."[23] His correspondence with Eleanor Jacques (London) was more prosaic, dwelling on a closer relationship and referring to past rendezvous or planning future ones in London and Burnham Beeches.[132]

    When Orwell was in the sanatorium in Kent, his wife's friend Lydia Jackson visited. He invited her for a walk and out of sight "an awkward situation arose."[133] Jackson was to be the most critical of Orwell's marriage to Eileen O'Shaughnessy, but their later correspondence hints at a complicity. Eileen at the time was more concerned about Orwell's closeness to Brenda Salkield. Orwell was to have an affair with his secretary at Tribune which caused Eileen much distress, and others have been mooted. In a letter to Ann Popham he wrote: "I was sometimes unfaithful to Eileen, and I also treated her badly, and I think she treated me badly, too, at times, but it was a real marriage, in the sense that we had been through awful struggles together and she understood all about my work, etc."[134] Similarly he suggested to Celia Kirwan that they had both been unfaithful.[135] There are several testaments that it was a well-matched and happy marriage.[136][137][138]

    Blair was very lonely after Eileen's death, and desperate for a wife, both as companion for himself and as mother for Richard. He proposed marriage to four women, including Celia Kirwan, and eventually Sonia Brownell accepted.[139] Orwell had met her when she was assistant to Cyril Connolly, at Horizon literary magazine.[140] They were married on 13 October 1949, only three months before Orwell's death. Some maintain that Sonia was the model for Julia in Nineteen Eighty-Four.
    Working as an imperial policeman gave him considerable responsibility while most of his contemporaries were still at university in England. When he was posted farther east in the Delta to Twante as a sub-divisional officer, he was responsible for the security of some 200,000 people. At the end of 1924, he was promoted to Assistant District Superintendent and posted to Syriam, closer to Rangoon. Syriam had the refinery of the Burmah Oil Company, "the surrounding land a barren waste, all vegetation killed off by the fumes of sulphur dioxide pouring out day and night from the stacks of the refinery." But the town was near Rangoon, a cosmopolitan seaport, and Blair went into the city as often as he could, "to browse in a bookshop; to eat well-cooked food; to get away from the boring routine of police life."[26] In September 1925 he went to Insein, the home of Insein Prison, the second largest jail in Burma. In Insein, he had "long talks on every conceivable subject" with Elisa Maria Langford-Rae (who later married Kazi Lhendup Dorjee). She noted his "sense of utter fairness in minutest details".

    In April 1926 he moved to Moulmein, where his maternal grandmother lived. At the end of that year, he was assigned to Katha in Upper Burma, where he contracted dengue fever in 1927. Entitled to a leave in England that year, he was allowed to return in July due to his illness. While on leave in England and on holiday with his family in Cornwall in September 1927, he reappraised his life. Deciding against returning to Burma, he resigned from the Indian Imperial Police to become a writer. He drew on his experiences in the Burma police for the novel Burmese Days (1934) and the essays "A Hanging" (1931) andding the churches of the Karen ethnic group. A colleague, Roger Beadon, recalled (in a 1969 recording for the BBC) that Blair was fast to learn the language and that before he left Burma, "was able to speak fluently with Burmese priests in 'very high-flown Burmese.'"[28] Blair made changes to his appearance in Burma that remained for the rest of his life. "While in Burma, he acquired a moustache similar to those worn by officers of the British regiments stationed there. [He] also acquired some tattoos; on each knuckle he had a small untidy blue circle. Many Burmese living in rural areas still sport tattoos like this – they are believed to protect against bullets and snake bites."[29] Later, he wrote that he felt guilty about his role in the work of empire and he "began to look more closely at his own country and saw that England also had its oppressed ..."
    Lifestyle

    Orwell was a heavy smoker, rolling his own cigarettes from strong shag tobacco, in spite of his bronchial condition. His penchant for the rugged life often took him to cold and damp situations, both in the long term as in Catalonia and Jura, and short term, for example, motorcycling in the rain and suffering a shipwreck. His love of strong tea was legendary—he had Fortnum & Mason's tea brought to him in Catalonia[9] and in 1946 published "A Nice Cup of Tea" on how to make it. He appreciated English beer, taken regularly and moderately, despised drinkers of lager[187] and wrote about an imagined, ideal pub in his 1946 newspaper article "The Moon Under Water".[188] Not as particular about food, he enjoyed the wartime "Victory Pie"[189] extolled canteen food at the BBC,[177] and once ate the cat's dinner by mistake.[190] He preferred traditional English dishes, such as roast beef and kippers.[191] Reports of his Islington days refer to the cosy afternoon tea table.

    His dress sense was unpredictable and usually casual.[192] In Southwold he had the best cloth from the local tailor,[193] but was equally happy in his tramping outfit. His attire in the Spanish Civil War, along with his size 12 boots, was a source of amusement.[194][195] David Astor described him as looking like a prep school master,[196] while according to the Special Branch dossier, Orwell's tendency to dress "in Bohemian fashion" revealed that the author was "a Communist".[197]

    Orwell's confusing approach to matters of social decorum—on the one hand expecting a working-class guest to dress for dinner,[198] and on the other, slurping tea out of a saucer at the BBC canteen[199]—helped stoke his reputation as an English eccentric.
    In his essay Politics and the English Language (1946), Orwell wrote about the importance of precise and clear language, arguing that vague writing can be used as a powerful tool of political manipulation because it shapes the way we think. In that essay, Orwell provides six rules for writers:

    Never use a metaphor, simile or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
    Never use a long word where a short one will do.
    If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
    Never use the passive where you can use the active.
    Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
    Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.[116]

    Andrew N. Rubin argues, "Orwell claimed that we should be attentive to how the use of language has limited our capacity for critical thought just as we should be equally concerned with the ways in which dominant modes of thinking have reshaped the very language that we use."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    I recently found out Rick typed him IEE on his website, and I am also aware of other opinions on the matter.

    Reading about his early life, it does seem easier to me to see him as an IEE than an IEI, and with his 'travel' stories and his novels...diaries and newspaper articles there are quite a few parallels with Mark Twain for example.
    what about the quotes above signifies an IEE typing?

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