Logical subtype is usually calm, serious and restrained. It is sufficiently categorical, obstinate and even categorical in the judgments. When the theme of its conversation does not interest, it is taciturn and severe, it looks sullenly into the support at the collocutor. Its cold penetrating view is difficult to maintain. If collocutor behaves is very validly, it can place him on the place. It knows how clearly and laconically, without the excess emotions to express its thought, does not love long discussions. Much time conducts in the reflections, analyzing and comparing different phenomena, numbers and facts. The impression of volitional person is produced. Lips are tightly compressed, the speech clear, jerky, but voice is not rich in nuances. Is held exactly, correctly, bezemotsional'no. However, the mimicry of face, which usually thickened, reflects internal emotions by the unexpected impulsive motions of muscles.
Intuitive subtype appears somewhat uncertain and even soft in the contact of people. It is not always categorical in the statements, but is sufficiently obstinate beskompromissen in its behavior. It can keep silent and restrain from the discussion, but its opinion it will not change. Its concealed emotionalism is manifested at the moment of extreme nervous tension in the intonations of voice and the impulsive gestures. In the conversation it is restrained, attentive, he tries to arrange to itself collocutor, giving advice and impressing by his knowledge and conclusions. In such cases its serious view softens, in the voice the benevolence appears. It can draw together distance in the contact; however, to the known limit. The gait is calm, is synchronous, is noticeable zazhatost' in the arms. Motions, on the contrary, are a little retarded and neuverenny. Poses forged, gestures - meager and restrained, rarely unconsciously impulsive, badly coordinated.
VI on a subtype is possible, but really difficult, only possible if you are an expert on that particular type. Or you must be 1000 years old and be an expert on any type...
It's easier to read the descriptions, or to meet other INTJ's to which you can compare yourself.
The latter helped me a lot.
Thanks, both of them seem like me on different circumstances
are you really intj? I have an acquaintance who looks just like you. He is the most likely to take out his penis in public. Pure horror. I'd never take that for an intj action..
LOL! What type is he?
He would be the same type as you I assume, suppose, presume.
Huh? I thought you said he wasn't an INTj.. You're describing him like he isn't an INTj.
Well... before I saw you I would never have typed him as INTj, but as I am not so good at typing except a few types and quadras that don't really say anything.
Then I saw you, and you were almost a replica of him. So if you are certain you are INTj then he is. But are you so certain? really? INTj? penis? yes? no? huh?
if i had to guess i would call you an SLE from that video you posted the other day, but that's pretty much a guess. i certainly wouldn't rule out any Se-quadra logical type, and alpha NTs are i suppose possible as well.
yeah, i'd have to agree. i could also see you as having a slightly higher chance of a hidden agenda than a one.Originally Posted by niffweed17
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
from what i understand, Se seems to be authority based. I dont see the point of that, since I think in the big picture we are all really just the same. That, and if authority can be challenged in a way to prove it wrong, I'll see it. but that's interesting, maybe I have a totally different understanding of things like you say.
authority, while perhaps a relevant theme, is not the entirety of Se by any stretch. if you wrote an extended editorial regarding your views on authority, perhaps that might be useful in terms of type analysis.
Authority, according to Se, has magnitude. While principles may act like authority in reality, it is actually the externalization of the principles that has magnitude.
i have absolutely no idea what that means or what it has to do with Se. i don't think we're on the same page about what Se is at all.Originally Posted by posablethumb
magnitude, power, whateva.
oh, well, i think Se is ego based.
can you be a little bit more specific?Originally Posted by posablethumb
alpha NT's can be quite self depracating, while Se types tend to be more adding on to their little surface.
what's your type niffweed?
well everybody has every function, so obv. everybody has an ego, but alpha NT sort of find it a joke.
ILI or LII; i'm no longer sure which. the general consensus on this forum for a while has been ILI, but i still see reasons why LII makes a great deal of sense.Originally Posted by posablethumb
if your general sense of Se is simply having a big ego, in the general sense of the word, then you should rather radically revise that definition.
Not necessarily big, but they pay much more attention to it and are sensative to it's wants.
hmm, they are more critical to it's position in the world of things, while i see it as a joke and some sort of delusion. psychopaths have big egos.
I think this is why INTj's are not so critical to food and its presentation. They realize their needs are much more critical, not much wants, and the presentation of foods would be wants.
this is entirely the wrong path. none of this has the slightest to do with Se. Se is, in general, much more about force, volitional pressure, being entirely attuned to the moment, aggressive behavior, and libido.
most of what you described is the ego in negative state. everybody has an ego, some more less than others.
Oh, I get it. You're ragging on me because I said your quadra's understanding of physics is not the way I see it. Sorry for hurting your ego. :wink:
I mean, so what. I don't see it the way you see it either, big whoop.
that explains quite a lot.Originally Posted by posablethumb
Of course, I was using my Ne. I take everything into context.
ENTp - Ne subtype
Regular Double-shot Espresso Subtype
Just because I'm a thinking type doesn't mean I'm not an idiot.
Agreed.Originally Posted by Quirk Satellite Div.
how come you don't know your type...? you can check which type you are if you know what relationships you have with all your friends etc.Originally Posted by niffweed17
If you think INTj is likely because you seem to value Ti, that could be explained by your being a fairly extreme Ni subtype. Just something to think about. What are your other reasons, anyhow?Originally Posted by niffweed17
i don't feel like hijacking this thread at this hour will give this topic the attention it deserves. i'll start a thread on it tomorrow. or sometime in the near future.Originally Posted by thehotelambush