Originally Posted by hitta

So is believing in evidence.

Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion

the zodiac is more like what socionics is.

Seeing certain patterns, but being unable (currently) to trace them back to any specific causes.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Nope.This is irrelevant to whether zodiac is correct or not. No sane person would believe in something that never works.Maybe, but it's more accurate to say it's prone to rationalising things.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Nope.This is irrelevant to whether zodiac is correct or not. No sane person would believe in something that never works.Maybe, but it's more accurate to say it's prone to rationalising things.

Originally Posted by hitta

How do you know whether or not it works? You have never even tested it. People have been studying astrology for 1000s of years in India, China and other eastern countries. Entire religions are based on it like Hinduism.

Originally Posted by hitta

Pretty much. I like how people like to point the finger at someone for doing something and they do the exact same thing. I'm sure that Jarno studied socionics for years and years, THEN read a type description and was like "This is so me"(sarcasm).

Originally Posted by hitta

Entire religions are based on it like Hinduism.

Originally Posted by Jarno

And here is where you are wrong.

Types do exist and are proven when tested, Zodiac descriptions not.

Socionics is NOT the same as Zodiac.

Originally Posted by Jarno

Yes it's true that a lot of people believe in Gods etc.

Is that your argument to say they are right? Because everybody sais so?


I remember a nice aneqdote from the philosopher Bacon:

A group of people were arguing how many teeth a horse has. They tried to find the answer in the bible and argued for hours, until there was some shy boy who said, "why don't we just look into the mouth of a horse and count the teeth". The boy was then accused of being a satan worshipper by not using the bible and sent away (!)

Hitta is one of the people who refuses to look into the mouth of the horse.

Originally Posted by hitta

Pretty much. I like how people like to point the finger at someone for doing something and they do the exact same thing. I'm sure that Jarno studied socionics for years and years, THEN read a type description and was like "This is so me"(sarcasm).

Originally Posted by hitta

You probably have a strong obsession with the dark kind of futuristic energy that is in Star Wars(think Tatooine). You are a good coaching type of personality that usually has a single minded purpose towards reaching an individualized goal. You usually put your energy and optimism into one idea or one purpose and you tend to drive towards it. Besides that you probably have a very charming style of picking up your mate. You probably like the thrill of the chase with partners. You probably enjoy competition a lot.

Your father is probably quiet laid back, and possibly somewhat lazy. Hes probably spiritual and tolerant in a lot of regards. Your mother is probably more of a fast and witty talker, and probably more logical overall.

You are probably ambivalent to religion. You would probably prefer to be more involved in chatty business style communication between people. You probably have a great desire to talk to foreigners or to explore different forms of communication. You're thinking is probably very theoretical and aloof, probably like the typical mad scientist. You probably have the natural emotions of a parental figure. Deeply grounded in the natural forces in the world. You probably enjoy home life. You probably have a deep emotional needed to be connected to every living entity.

You aren't the best decision maker. You probably have an extremely hard time making your mind up on things. You probably do a lot of things for people and often get nothing in return. You like philosophy and spiritual studies. The sign you were born in is said to "want to be absorbed in things like water". Usually the sign is religious on a basic level, though you have ketu in the 9th so this probably won't show through. Career wise, Id guess something in electrical sciences(usually abstract inventions and things like that), as your 10th lord mercury is in Aquarius.

Originally Posted by hitta

You are the one that doesn't want to look in the "mouth of the horse". You think its too dirty.

Originally Posted by hitta

Tested by who? You?

Originally Posted by Brilliand

This description fits me vaguely on a few points, but it's less than 50%. However, I get the impression that this is your own interpretation of what the Zodiac actually says. How about showing me the actual sign connections (i.e. 10th lord mercury in Aquarius, 9th lord Ketu in xxxx [?])? Also, which of those sign connections would change within a few hours of the given time?

Originally Posted by Jarno

No the socionics institute. I rather accept their conclusions then those of
a bunch of religious hippies.

Originally Posted by hitta

Well probably some, though I gave you a very vague reading. The lagna would change, which would alter the entire chart order.

Originally Posted by hitta

Dude, astrology has been studied by actual scientists for a long time. You've never heard of the mars effect.

Originally Posted by Jarno

I know it is studied, but what's more important, the results...

I've just read the mars effect. When scientist tried to check wether astrology is a serious predictor, everything showed that it did not predict, except for the planet mars. There was somewhat of a correlation.

Wow of all the experiments, everything came out negative except for 1 that gave a slightly positive result. Probably because simply coincidence. That is all but convincing.

Originally Posted by hitta

Are you stupid or something? The test was only done on athletes. Mars is the planet correlated with aggression and strength.