post some pics of gamma here.

**implied** · 08-11-2006, 08:57 AM

preferably not board members. celebrities! celebrities! celebrities!

Expat · 08-11-2006, 09:46 AM

My kind of celebrities is probably different from yours, but anyway - -

Christopher Hitchens -

Ann Coulter -

Tony Blair -

Yulia Tymoshenko -

Bill Gates -

Silvio Berlusconi -

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 10:15 AM

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but I am pretty darn sure that Condoleezza Rice is

**implied** · 08-11-2006, 10:17 AM

good one, steve. this has been a secret thought of mine for a while, that she could be

! i have a hard time seeing

.

Gilly · 08-11-2006, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expat

My kind of celebrities is probably different from yours, but anyway - -

Christopher Hitchens -

Ann Coulter -

I love how you put these two next to each other. George Galloway would laugh.

Expat · 08-11-2006, 11:58 AM

Yes I think it's probably correct for Rice.

Gerhard Schröder -

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 12:09 PM

Believe me I do have a thesis on this, and I've seen this possibility mentioned before on this site but I think it's still up for grabs. For now I'll just throw this out there though, that I think George W Bush is

More later when I get some time to write it up...

Expat · 08-11-2006, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilligan87

I love how you put these two next to each other. George Galloway would laugh.

I prefer to laugh at him:

Not sure about his type, I think

.

Gilly · 08-11-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expat

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilligan87

I love how you put these two next to each other. George Galloway would laugh.

I prefer to laugh at him:

Not sure about his type, I think

.

ahahahhaha

They're both fools if you ask me. But I wanted to comment

Expat · 08-11-2006, 12:45 PM

On George Bush, I think he is more likely

than

but the latter is an intriguing possibility especially is Rice is indeed

.

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 01:00 PM

And so is Blair.

Also, I think Bill O'Reilly is another

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 01:10 PM

I read Dick Morris' book, "Condi vs Hillary". In the book Dick Morris covered much of Condi's life, her upbringing, work history including what she was able to do for Stanford (very ENTj-ish), and the history of her public service under both Bush 41 and 43, among many other things. From that I am almost certain that she is ENTj.

She is clearly

focused. Also, her behavior pattern from the book showed that she is reluctant to use

. It's been awhile since I read it, but she has never really actively applied or worked towards getting public service jobs. She has always had people asking/begging her to come work in public service because she'd be perfect. She's also said that she's not going to run for the presidency, but she never "ran for" her NSA job, nor Secretary of State. She had people calling out to her, and now there's a building coalition of people here calling for her to run for the presidency also. Perhaps her reluctance shows more a PoLR

, but I think she's more

than

and also showed a lot of

in the book so I think she's ENTj.

Actually, with how she's able to defend herself at various hearings and how aggressive she can get "only when needed", I do think that shows more the possibility of an

hidden agenda.

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 01:12 PM

Another person I think is definitely

is Newt Gingrich.

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 01:35 PM

Cindy Sheehan,

? She's the media darling anti-war "peace mom" in the U.S., whom Ann Coulter also wrote about in her latest book.

If she's ISFj, she'd have to be diametrically opposed to GWB with a completely different set of personal ethics, with PoLR

perhaps not allowing her to see other points of view.

I've also thought that Hillary Clinton is either

or

. I think she may be SeFi.

It's really tough to tell with her because she has so many "handlers" telling her how to act, dress, along with prepared and carefully scripted speeches. From another Dick Morris book though, I think she's one of these two.

Expat · 08-11-2006, 01:43 PM

Hillary is

IMO.

Joy · 08-11-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevENTj

And so is Blair.

Also, I think Bill O'Reilly is another

I was gonna post that if no one else had

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expat

Hillary is

IMO.

I think Hillary is ruled more by her personal ethics rather than by personal logic. She seems to have a very clear sense of what she personally wants in an ethical sense, and is extremely ambitious about making that happen. But when it comes to running the numbers, she's known for depending heavily on advisors which tend to be unscrupulous, take advantage of her weaknesses and "cook" the numbers on her. This is how her universal healthcare initiative in the early Clinton presidency years blew up on her. I think that would suggest more a role Ti, and not a foundation. And perhaps her advisors were ISTj hacks with "everybody lies" role Fi.

Rocky · 08-11-2006, 04:05 PM

Hillary Clinton is clearly an ENTJ. She is known for her ability to clearly express herself and lay out her ideas logically and concisly. Not a triat of ISTJs, ESFPs, or whatever else people thought of her.

I think Bill O'Reilly is also ENTJ.

Condi Rice, Bill Gates, and Tony Blair are ENTP IMO.

I don't know about the others mentioned in this thread (except for Bush, but I won't mention him since you all hate him).

stevENTj · 08-11-2006, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky

Hillary Clinton is clearly an ENTJ. She is known for her ability to clearly express herself and lay out her ideas logically and concisly. Not a triat of ISTJs, ESFPs, or whatever else people thought of her.

I think that's her "handlers" doing the talking in those carefully prepared and scripted speeches, though. I read a book on Hillary from somebody that has known her for nearly 30 years I don't think she could possibly be an ENTj. Reading about her, there are a lot of similarities between her behavior and my wife's, who is ISFj. The biggest difference I saw was just a different set of personal ethics in each person. This is why I think she's either FiSe or SeFi.

Expat · 08-11-2006, 04:27 PM

I have a (perhaps silly) reason not to think of her as Gamma SF.

As a general rule,

and

women like being attractive. Hillary is a fine-looking woman, but if you see the pictures of the early years of her marriage to Clinton, she seemed to go out of her way to downplay that - as if she wanted to look like a geek. Perhaps it was part of a "feminazi" stance, but I thought it might suggest a logical type.

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stevENTj Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DC area, US Posts: 487	Believe me I do have a thesis on this, and I've seen this possibility mentioned before on this site but I think it's still up for grabs. For now I'll just throw this out there though, that I think George W Bush is More later when I get some time to write it up... __________________ INTp/ILI, Logical sub-type my wife: ISFj/ESI Ethical sub-type and yes she has her laser beam death rays ready for ESTp/SLE's, lol.

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stevENTj Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DC area, US Posts: 487	And so is Blair. Also, I think Bill O'Reilly is another __________________ INTp/ILI, Logical sub-type my wife: ISFj/ESI Ethical sub-type and yes she has her laser beam death rays ready for ESTp/SLE's, lol.

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stevENTj Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DC area, US Posts: 487	I read Dick Morris' book, "Condi vs Hillary". In the book Dick Morris covered much of Condi's life, her upbringing, work history including what she was able to do for Stanford (very ENTj-ish), and the history of her public service under both Bush 41 and 43, among many other things. From that I am almost certain that she is ENTj. She is clearly focused. Also, her behavior pattern from the book showed that she is reluctant to use . It's been awhile since I read it, but she has never really actively applied or worked towards getting public service jobs. She has always had people asking/begging her to come work in public service because she'd be perfect. She's also said that she's not going to run for the presidency, but she never "ran for" her NSA job, nor Secretary of State. She had people calling out to her, and now there's a building coalition of people here calling for her to run for the presidency also. Perhaps her reluctance shows more a PoLR , but I think she's more than and also showed a lot of in the book so I think she's ENTj. Actually, with how she's able to defend herself at various hearings and how aggressive she can get "only when needed", I do think that shows more the possibility of an hidden agenda. __________________ INTp/ILI, Logical sub-type my wife: ISFj/ESI Ethical sub-type and yes she has her laser beam death rays ready for ESTp/SLE's, lol.

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stevENTj Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DC area, US Posts: 487	Another person I think is definitely is Newt Gingrich.

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stevENTj Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DC area, US Posts: 487	Cindy Sheehan, ? She's the media darling anti-war "peace mom" in the U.S., whom Ann Coulter also wrote about in her latest book. If she's ISFj, she'd have to be diametrically opposed to GWB with a completely different set of personal ethics, with PoLR perhaps not allowing her to see other points of view. I've also thought that Hillary Clinton is either or . I think she may be SeFi. It's really tough to tell with her because she has so many "handlers" telling her how to act, dress, along with prepared and carefully scripted speeches. From another Dick Morris book though, I think she's one of these two.

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