Socionics - the16types.info forums http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/ The largest English-speaking Socionics forum in the world. en Thu, 23 May 2013 00:03:43 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/images/misc/rss.png Socionics - the16types.info forums http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/ The Dimensionality of Functions http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42888-The-Dimensionality-of-Functions?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 20:53:34 GMT This article by @psevdonim's colleagues got me thinking about the dimensionality of functions.

If not everyone can write about lower dimensional functions, what about writers who write characters in books? Some descriptions are complete and accurate descriptions of real people in entirely fictional situations and fictional worlds done by people who are supposedly incapable of doing such a thing.

If anyone can spot and accurately asses the dimensionality of a function, why wouldn't they be able to reproduce it? Doesn't the ability to asses imply an ability to produce, reproduce? And if it doesn't, then couldn't one just just randomly write stuff until they get it? Kind of like, go in many different directions, check which direction holds most promise and then go that way, slowly converge to the result? Basically implement the method of steepest descent? And in that way be able to use a function like a completely different socionics type?

The dimensionality theory states that one cannot physically use all information, we lack abilities to process and manipulate certain information. If it's not valid, what's the alternative explanation? One can but just has a preference for certain information over others? If so why, where do these preferences come from? Is it that when we are born we have no informational preferences and no informational metabolism but develop one during growing up much like how a river carves a canyon? One is engraved through experience? Or are we born with a imbalance, kind of like the matter antimatter imbalance in the universe, and the natural interaction between the informational elements, this information inhibits that information, coupled with limited resources, you can't perceive everything all the time, carves the informational metabolism in the structured manner as described by socionics? ]]> General Discussion Tropski Bolest http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42888-The-Dimensionality-of-Functions <![CDATA[[VI] VI my new friend]]> http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42887-VI-my-new-friend?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 19:40:10 GMT Image: http://imageshack.us/a/img577/7633/42091710150556355582920.jpg Image: http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9352/31684010150386968307920.jpg...





]]> Park http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42887-VI-my-new-friend poll: cybersex http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42886-poll-cybersex?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 15:04:01 GMT never? just once to try it out? love it on the regular? only with cams? never? just once to try it out? love it on the regular? only with cams? ]]> Anything Goes lungs http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42886-poll-cybersex Leadership http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42883-Leadership?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 09:39:11 GMT Gulenko says the central/leaders types are EIE, LSI, SLE (volitional triad) and SEE, LIE, ILI (pragmatic triad). This might solidify at the most... Gulenko says the central/leaders types are EIE, LSI, SLE (volitional triad) and SEE, LIE, ILI (pragmatic triad). This might solidify at the most intense levels of competitions though. And obviously there are outliers like Mitt Romney (LSE, 3w2). Stereotypically, E3 and E8 are the leaders. Based on your own experience: What do you think? ]]> General Discussion ieist http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42883-Leadership Untrustworthiness http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42882-Untrustworthiness?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 09:21:37 GMT Do you think certain socionics + enneagram type are more or less trustworthy than others? I'm especially interested in lying, intruding on privacy, misrepresenting truth and outright crime (blackmail, stealing and so on). The most dishonest person I ever met was E3, so many lies... ]]> General Discussion ieist http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42882-Untrustworthiness Te and clinical roboticness http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42881-Te-and-clinical-roboticness?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 09:15:51 GMT Does anyone else find Te very detached and cold? "This person has these attributes, to activate them, push these buttons (some Fi here?)". Also, seems this part of Te gets very obvious once Te wants to mess with someone. It's like they look after what objects a person is attracted to (that is the Fi part) then start messing with that to "get to" the person. People seem to think Te is just usefulness but that seems naive, to me. It's extroverted, so there's energy and initiative there, and it's cold towards people due to being logical... Thoughts?

I also wanna ask about :Te:, :Si: and sadism. Have you ever known or observed people with those functions in their ego block who took pleasure in seeing others waste time and being inefficient? It seems like it could relate to Si somewhat as well, obviously you need some psychological connection to others to want to take care of others (as caregivers do) so it seems :Si: used negatively could manifest sort of "parasitically". lungs also made a thread on BDSM and romantic style and infantiles were most into it... ]]> General Discussion ieist http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42881-Te-and-clinical-roboticness Yet another IEI joins http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42880-Yet-another-IEI-joins?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 08:27:44 GMT You'll be seeing me around! :) ]]> Introductions ieist http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42880-Yet-another-IEI-joins Two functions, one sentence http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42879-Two-functions-one-sentence?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 04:15:13 GMT :Fi::Ne: "I can find or identify ideas to/that help people."
:Ne::Ti: "I see how ideas fit into systems."

Can you make one for your type? ]]> General Discussion Maritsa http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42879-Two-functions-one-sentence Narcissistically beautiful Hollywood Homes http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42877-Narcissistically-beautiful-Hollywood-Homes?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 01:09:06 GMT drool with me dolphin Fireyed Kim and others http://www.lonny.com/Celebrity+Homes drool with me @dolphin @Fireyed @Kim and others

http://www.lonny.com/Celebrity+Homes ]]> Famous People truck http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42877-Narcissistically-beautiful-Hollywood-Homes INFJ, therefore I must be IEI? http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42876-INFJ-therefore-I-must-be-IEI?goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 22:50:57 GMT I typed myself as INFJ and EII a few years ago, because, well. The descriptions sounded accurate. But to be honest, I don’t know a whole lot about... I typed myself as INFJ and EII a few years ago, because, well. The descriptions sounded accurate. But to be honest, I don’t know a whole lot about either theory, mainly just bits and pieces. I’m on an MBTI forum and was told by several that I am wrong in my typing and that INFJ=IEI and INFP=EII because the functions are similar. I realized I had no arguments for them other than, “But my personality and interactions fit the descriptions!”

Am I wrong about my typing as INFJ or EII? If MBTI functions =/= socionics functions, how do I…explain that to people? ]]> inacucumber http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42876-INFJ-therefore-I-must-be-IEI New tinychat password http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42875-New-tinychat-password?goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 18:57:52 GMT http://tinychat.com/socksrus has a new password "butts" to keep people out of the room, if you have a problem with this go fuck yourself with a rusty spork in the eye socket kthx bai. ]]> Anything Goes hitta http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42875-New-tinychat-password <![CDATA[[NSFW] Doctor Prescribes Oral Sex to Treat gag Reflex]]> http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42874-Doctor-Prescribes-Oral-Sex-to-Treat-gag-Reflex?goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 18:57:11 GMT http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/17/peter-zegarra-california-doctor-oral-sex_n_3293734.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news ---Quote--- The patient,... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ref=weird-news

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The patient, an unidentified woman, complained that the Sacramento-based colo-rectal surgeon told her to practice oral sex on her husband "twice a week" prior to the procedure as a way of allaying the reflex.
]]> Anything Goes RedBeard http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42874-Doctor-Prescribes-Oral-Sex-to-Treat-gag-Reflex <![CDATA[define "in love"]]> http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42872-define-quot-in-love-quot?goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 13:56:58 GMT specifically, as opposed to "infatuation" or "loving"

i get infatuated and over time i grow to love. but apparently there is another state, called "in love," that is separate. i've never experienced this and i've just taken it to be another word for infatuation.

do you define it differently? have you experienced it separately?

my ex used to ask me if i was in love with him and i had to answer that i loved him but i wasn't. we had been together for years; i obviously wasn't on cloud nine anymore. he said he was but i didn't really believe it. it reminds me of in high school when girls would talk about "making love" and how it was different from fucking and magical. but i'm pretty sure it was just slow fucking. am i a sociopath? lol. ]]> Anything Goes lungs http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42872-define-quot-in-love-quot <![CDATA[[NSFW] What Type Am I?]]> http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42870-What-Type-Am-I?goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 21:10:58 GMT Help me discover my type by asking me well formulated questions, for I am unsure of myself. Discover the riches to be had from within you and I.... Help me discover my type by asking me well formulated questions, for I am unsure of myself. Discover the riches to be had from within you and I. :love: ]]> RedBeard http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42870-What-Type-Am-I Happy Birthday, Pekka Siitoin http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42868-Happy-Birthday-Pekka-Siitoin?goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 16:48:33 GMT Sieg Heil! Today is the birthday of a magnificent man, a true Aryan, Mr. Siitoin. Image:... Sieg Heil!

Today is the birthday of a magnificent man, a true Aryan, Mr. Siitoin.

Fuhrer Siitoin was Finnish neo-Nazi, occultist and a drunk with numerous contributions to the thriving quoting culture of Winland. Here are some words of wisdom from this ÜberStallion:

"But above all, I'm a hardcore racist, sadist and fascist. That's what I enjoy. Pity is illness."

"Because 90% of Swedes are homosexuals!"

"Winston Churchill was a homosexual."

"Nothing was burned there, absolutely nothing, don't talk bullshit." (About Auschwitz concentration camp)

"I'd say that lesbians should be caught, cuffed from hand and ankles and then force fucked so that there would be babies. After that there wouldn't be anymore lesbians."

"Aryans I won't shoot. But if it's anybody else.."

"Let's send all the refugee ******s to Lapland to shovel snow. Even the Santa needs black elves. It's equality."

"Satan lives and is well in this world"

"You fucked up a lot, screwed everything, now your cunt is cold." Siitoin for his wife obituary. ]]> Anything Goes Aquagraph http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/42868-Happy-Birthday-Pekka-Siitoin