Are 1s expected to be neat and tidy?

labcoat · 12-23-2009, 09:02 PM

Topic title says it all. Just wondering what the official materials say about this. If you only have an opinion to confer, please be clear on the fact that it is your opinion and not the official view.

07490 · 12-23-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by labcoat

Topic title says it all. Just wondering what the official materials say about this. If you only have an opinion to confer, please be clear on the fact that it is your opinion and not the official view.

No, that will depend on the instinct. If the E-1 has a dominant sexual instinct, their focus of their perfectionism would be in close intimate relationship. if they are social dominant their expectation would be socially. If they are self preservation instinct, their focus are toward material perfection. being Neat and tidy would be the focus of an E-1 Sp. But it totally contrast the focus of sexual E-1. Still everyone has all three instinct in them and people in some degree develop all three of their instinct so there can be a manifestation of all three instinct in a person as well. just realm of the instinct is more important than other.

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The self-pres energy of type One is in sync with its dominant fixation, which can work well when the person is balanced. When out of balance, the self-pres One can become obsessive-compulsive, anal, and/or perfectionistic. The sexual instinct is, in many ways, in opposition to self-pres One energy, so inner conflict is seen more as the sexual variant is expressed through the Oneness.

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Enneatype One's basic fear is of not being perfect, therefore, not being good enough. This manifests in the self-pres variant as the need to "fix" the environment.

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When the social instinct is dominant in enneatype One, the fear of not being perfect manifests with regards to their connection to others. The social instinct is satisfied when others follow their rules or hold up their standards of justice.

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When the sexual instinct is dominant, the One's fear of not being perfect manifests directly in the realm of close personal relationships. Close bonds are the focus of their perfectionism. They focus on having a perfect mate or perfect friends and family. Competition and intensity can enter the picture.

Azeroffs · 12-23-2009, 10:01 PM

The main motivation of a 1 is to control themselves and behave correctly. They usually extend this into other areas which includes expecting the same of others and neatness of surroundings, but not necessarily so.

I agree Sp-1 would most likely focus on being neat, while other 1s not necessary so.

electric sheep · 12-23-2009, 11:56 PM

Yea I think the self pres 1s would show this more than other 1s, but that's no guarantee other 1s wont do that too.

Think Martha Stewart.

labcoat · 12-24-2009, 07:23 PM

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No, that will depend on the instinct.

Any place I can read up on these instinct things? I was aware of wings which are supposedly similar to subtypes in socionics, but instincts are new to me.

I identify with 1s in certain regards, but am definitely not of the neat and tidy variety. I would say I seek perfection in a small number of areas of competence, for which things outside this area tend to get sacrificed. I am not perfectionistic in a balanced, across-the-board way, but in a focussed, selective way.

How would the enneagram classify me?

Brian · 12-24-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by labcoat

I would say I seek perfection in a small number of areas of competence, for which things outside this area tend to get sacrificed.

E5, I think. Bolded bit. I'll let someone else expand on that.

Azeroffs · 12-24-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by labcoat

Any place I can read up on these instinct things? I was aware of wings which are supposedly similar to subtypes in socionics, but instincts are new to me.

the enneagram ...info from the underground

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I identify with 1s in certain regards, but am definitely not of the neat and tidy variety. I would say I seek perfection in a small number of areas of competence, for which things outside this area tend to get sacrificed. I am not perfectionistic in a balanced, across-the-board way, but in a focussed, selective way.

How would the enneagram classify me?

typewatch.net has a lot of people that are very well informed on the enneagram. I don't know a lot about 1s except that in general they seek relief through control of themselves. They must be perfect examples of their idealism.

electric sheep · 12-24-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by labcoat

I would say I seek perfection in a small number of areas of competence, for which things outside this area tend to get sacrificed. I am not perfectionistic in a balanced, across-the-board way, but in a focussed, selective way.

How would the enneagram classify me?

types 1-3-5 all seek competence in some way. I think 5 is the most likely to find something narrow to master while letting everything else fall into disarray.

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Azeroffs Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: California Posts: 909	The main motivation of a 1 is to control themselves and behave correctly. They usually extend this into other areas which includes expecting the same of others and neatness of surroundings, but not necessarily so. I agree Sp-1 would most likely focus on being neat, while other 1s not necessary so. __________________ ENTj Ni-LIE 3w4 sp/sx 3w4-5w6-9w8 "Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics." — CJ Keyser "You know, some people say life is short and that you could get hit by a bus at any moment and that you have to live each day like it's your last. Bullshit. Life is long. You're probably not gonna get hit by a bus. And you're gonna have to live with the choices you make for the next fifty years." — Chris Rock

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electric sheep constant change Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,068 Blog Entries: 5	Yea I think the self pres 1s would show this more than other 1s, but that's no guarantee other 1s wont do that too. Think Martha Stewart. __________________ SEI Fe/Normalizing subtype dull senses, soft feelings 3w2 so/sp 3w2-6w7-1w2

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