bobbybeam

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IEE's...i feel super connected to this, like, most of the stuff on here i feel totally relates to me...do any of you all relate to this?

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Arctures

Completely. Before I joined any of these forums I thought I was EII because I connected 100% with several EII descriptions. I feel like the differences in IM element placements in Model A don't make as much of a difference as a lot of the descriptions would have us believe.

I feel like the stereotype for ENFp seems to be this spastic little puppy who loves all people, which is something I can't relate to at all lol.

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tiny_dancer

What? I relate to that...

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Jarno

In practice, the ENFP and INFJ differ very much on the I/E dichotomie.

While ENFP's are often ADHD energetic types, the INFJ is common seen in assertivness training because of their silentness/submissivness.

Their interests however will probably be much the same.

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Arctures

I think the reason ENFps come off as more ADHD is because of Ne leading. Their minds are in a constant desire for new information input, so they can seem kinda jumpy when new things pop into their heads because that's what they're programmed to do best lol. I personally try to portray myself as a more dignified and stable ENFp, but my desire for new information is constantly running.

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jewels

spastic little puppy who loves all people

I second that.

I can come across as quiet, or focused or "together" -- and my ENFp friends also feel pretty quiet/introvert seeming -- yet I'm also the one usually getting friends together, wanting to do five things in one day "hey, let's go for a walk, make cupcakes, play pool/go iceskating and/or watch a movie and hopefully we can do most of those things today."

So my demeanor may not be "bouncy" (most of the time, though sometimes, yeah), but my actions are completely spastic people-loving puppy running around doing as many activities as possible. yup.

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Arctures

But I don't love all people, I find myself quite annoyed with them at times D:
I guess I'm a true negativist in that sense lol

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Lobo

Spastic is not a good thing to call yourself... :/

Yeah, same here.

Azeroffs

Lol, I just found this really funny.

Ohhh arccc *points to EII*

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"Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics."
— CJ Keyser

"You know, some people say life is short and that you could get hit by a bus at any moment and that you have to live each day like it's your last. Bullshit. Life is long. You're probably not gonna get hit by a bus. And you're gonna have to live with the choices you make for the next fifty years."
— Chris Rock

Arctures

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you will need a greater sample size of ENFps and INFj to show any real correlation anyways

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bobbybeam

I sometimes feel like a spastic puppy with racing thoughts and such when I have tons of energy...from something really exciting in my life like up and coming events, new interesting people in my life, or a new romance.

but, when these are not a part of my life-my thoughts do not race, but are rather solid; I become rather emotional/melancholy...oh! and when I am like this I am not a people person, at all.

Talking to people when I am in this state is something that is rather forced, uncomfortable, and drains me. My people skill suck when I am in this state.

I feel very introvertish...oh, and especially when problems come up in relationships that I really care about, I get very depressed....or when change comes into my life, even if it is a good kind of change---it makes me rather sad.....weird?

This emotional crap was what got me thinking that I was too similar to an EII

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Marie84

I find that mirrors have a lot of similarities with the main difference being the temperaments/mannerisms/energy.

Like Jarno said, IEE's tend to be more energetic, sometimes hyperactive. They're generally more talkative, will initiate strangers with friendly small talk (depending on shyness) and can be very emotionally expressive.
They can go through phases of being really interested in starting something but don't always follow through on it. This reflect their attitude to life in general, as in the need for change/spontaneity, that seems to be common with Ep types in general. I sort of see it as needing constant mental stimulation.
I also find that IEE's tend to go through mood-changes quite sporadically.

EII's tend to be calmer, quieter and less likely to initiate. Might have flashes of emotional expressiveness but are generally more monotonous.
I think most EII's would prefer a more stable lifestyle and like to be, and be seen as, somewhat more responsible...or "boringer" than IEE's
Generally more predictable in mannerisms, less prone to sudden mood-shifts, better at hiding emotions.

Outside of that both come across as pragmatically confused and clumsy people who should never be allowed in any place where there's hazardous surroundings, like industrial facilities or construction sites, big no-no

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Arctures

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bobbybeam

yes, better at hiding their emotions? haha no no no, that is not me at all-you know when i'm down and you know when i am up....is this the *ding ding ding that i was looking for?
so EII's hide their emotions, while IEE's don't? do IEE's distance themselves from people as well? i find that i am able to do this, but initially i do not. this distancing only happens when i have been hurt, or have become detached from someone....is this the IEE way?

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Lobo

Hi bobbybeam, I think you may be asking some questions that are beyond the knowledge of forum members here... While you might get answers to your questions, you have to keep in mind that they are subjective. Also, imo finding dichotomies like ¨EIIs hide their emotions vs IEE don´t¨ will drive you crazy, since I doubt these really play out irl. The only way to truly distinguish EII and IEE is by following the definition of these two types, which (again this is my opinion) will never be fully embodied by people irl. Types are just models, and you see which one you resemble the most based on your thinking and perception style, among some other things I assume.

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tiny_dancer

HEY. I've survived many construction sites, thankyouverymuch.

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FDG

I suppose all mirror types feel very similar when talking about their internal thought process. However, externally they're always really different...

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Marie84

I find that IEE's are just better at showing a fluctuation of emotions, while EII's are sort of built to be more mellow/calm. I guess it's related to IEE's having Fe as a demonstrative function while EII's have it as an ignoring one.

This can be rather hurtful when people interpret the lack of Fe, by EII's, as something other than what it is.
For an example...An SLE friend of my fathers once gave me a present at a Christmas party when I was about 13 and I told him thank you in a sincere manner but he must have interpreted my lack of emotional warmth as me not appreciating it since he questioned me on my sincerity, something like "well, you don't sound very happy about it"
My IEE mother and all the IEE friends I've had can turn the Fe on in situations like this; they're generally more seemingly friendly and energetic

That makes sense. I think most Delta NF's deal with bad relations or/and conflict by ignoring people (irl) rather than actually dealing with the conflict.

I posted a bit about this in another thread, that me and IEE's generally deal with conflict situations (with eachother) by going our separate ways than when some time passes (and we cool down) we just go on interacting like nothing happened, it's like it's just understood that the forgiveness is there

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Marie84

You must be like Mr. Majoo and just have tremendous luck in not being killed yet

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tiny_dancer

That's a possibility. IEEs aren't completely incompetent. SLIs are better at taking action to fix something (whereas I procrastinate and put it off), but I am definitely not a stereotypical female flailing my arms looking for a savior. If I need to learn something in order to take care of myself, then I do it.

That being said, I did have the most hilarious encounter with another IEE. I had no idea what one is like in person, because I've seriously never met another IEE my age (and interacted more than once or twice). Talk about information overload. She didn't know how to weed out what I needed and just threw numbers at me in a very haphazard format. ROFLMAO. SLIs, I have new respect for you now that I know how much energy you absorb. I'm curious to know whether her fiancee is SLI or not.

Conflict is a mess for me. I'm hesitant to tell people when they're annoying me, I guess I don't feel I have to the right to say, "If you want to be friends with me, you have to change." And then I've seen a lot of instances where the people scream at each other and don't reach any resolution...their relationship is damaged and interaction after that point is even rougher. Conflicts with my duals are much easier to get over, because we know that it's over and done with. It's actually gone.

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