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Ryu · 03-20-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

You're ESTj

That's correct.
I'm curious as to how MBTI works and what it would call me.

Ryu · 03-20-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

VI only, remember N's have a vision deal.

I think she meant deal as in bargain at the N Store.

Mariella · 03-20-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Provided that humans started off with a set handfull of people this would all be very likely.
The two do not have equal expression.
I have to admit, honestly, I have never seen two S types have and N baby.

But then, given my parents pairing, for me to have been an INFj is almost unlikely so how does it all work; by quadra?

My mom is INTp
My mom's mom is ISFp
My dad's dad is INFp
My dad is ISTp
My D Grandma is ESTj
My D Grandpa is ISTp

The likely hood of me turning out INFj is highly unlikely in their case, unless I was adopted, but my mom says no to that, so who knows.

Did you actually ask your mom if you were adopted because it didn't seem like the types worked out? Like you would assume you were adopted and lied to about that before you'd consider your typings were wrong and/or that your system is flawed?

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariella

You need to get over this VI thing and look at people's personalities a bit when trying to figure out their personality type.

The problem with your method of determining types is you can't determine type that way, because there are specific things with each type that people miss if they don't know what to ask or to look for; that's been the very same case here with typing people based on a paragraph of question and answer. Right?

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariella

Did you actually ask your mom if you were adopted because it didn't seem like the types worked out? Like you would assume you were adopted and lied to about that before you'd consider your typings were wrong and/or that your system is flawed?

Of course I asked; but it seems that quadra type effects personality type outcome too, there's just so much to study, I think it would be best to wait and see if the human genome can target the specific gene sequence that ties morphology with personality type/traits.

Mariella · 03-20-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

The problem with your method of determining types is you can't determine type that way, because there are specific things with each type that people miss if they don't know what to ask or to look for; that's been the very same case here with typing people based on a paragraph of question and answer. Right?

IMO the biggest fault in Socionics is how difficult it is to determine someone's type. But the fact that it is difficult to do it one way, and easy another, doens't make the easy way more accurate, or accurate at all. Those two issues are not related to each other.

Mariella · 03-20-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Of course I asked; but it seems that quadra type effects personality type outcome too, there's just so much to study, I think it would be best to wait and see if the human genome can target the specific gene sequence that ties morphology with personality type/traits.

So the possibility you having people typed wrong and/or your system being flawed are not even on your radar?

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariella

So the possibility you having people typed wrong and/or your system being flawed are not even on your radar?

Nope, VI is very accurate.
Join me in this thread as an example...

VI MY DAD AND STEPMOM

Ryu · 03-20-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariella

So the possibility you having people typed wrong and/or your system being flawed are not even on your radar?

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Nope

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryu

You have no interest in such a thing anyway, but trust those who say they are your dual, when they are not.

Lobo · 03-20-2010, 07:30 PM

Maritsa, for the love of God (assuming you believe in a deity), have a bit of an open mind for what people are telling you... The problem is not so much your conviction, it's that you don't offer any reasoning behind your beliefs that can guide other people into what you believe in. You show a John the Baptist complex, coming here and just preaching as if it's your God-given right, and you don't care about guiding people whatsoever to try and understand you.

Minde · 03-20-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Okay, you guys can stop this now...Mindy, come over, I'll make you brownies (tripple chocolate brownies).

No, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Lobo

Well, from my pov you did nothing wrong Minde... and it wasn't theatrical. I hope Maritsa doesn't take what you said and assume that she's in the right, which she is probably assuming at the moment. It might only feed her delusions of grandeur and her unfounded accusations, like saying that we are liars because to her we are not INFj. She is the one acting crazy, not you.

Thank you for the moral support.

You are right that my apology doesn't mean I think she's right. In fact, I stand by the substance of what I said, and consider her not only wrong on multiple counts and in multiple ways, I also consider her an unkind, manipulative, and (at least intellectually) dishonest person. However, none of that changes that how I behaved was beneath my standards, and I wanted to keep my apology clean and without qualifiers. Because regardless of how she (or other people) behave, I still need to be good myself. I guess it's a personal integrity thing.

As for what she thinks - she's shown a remarkable ability to filter incoming information to fit her own predetermined opinions. Basically, she only hears what she wants to hear. So *shrug*, based on my own interactions with her as well as observing her interactions with others, I don't think anything that I do or don't say will actually change much with regard to how or what she thinks.

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Originally Posted by Ryu

Question for deltas

What is your MBTI type?

INFJ - high in I and N, low in F and J, as per a test I took a week or so ago at a friend's behest.

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Minde

No, thanks.

Thank you for the moral support.

You are right that my apology doesn't mean I think she's right. In fact, I stand by the substance of what I said, and consider her not only wrong on multiple counts and in multiple ways, I also consider her an unkind, manipulative, and (at least intellectually) dishonest person. However, none of that changes that how I behaved was beneath my standards, and I wanted to keep my apology clean and without qualifiers. Because regardless of how she (or other people) behave, I still need to be good myself. I guess it's a personal integrity thing.

As for what she thinks - she's shown a remarkable ability to filter incoming information to fit her own predetermined opinions. Basically, she only hears what she wants to hear. So *shrug*, based on my own interactions with her as well as observing her interactions with others, I don't think anything that I do or don't say will actually change much with regard to how or what she thinks.

INFJ - high in I and N, low in F and J, as per a test I took a week or so ago at a friend's behest.

OH, I think you're going to see my ugly side come out now. YOU ARE NOT INFJ AND CAN'T BE SO GET OVER YOUR SELF.

We, INFj's never, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, claim each other to be dishonest; you word twisting, lying, scound.

You can use emotional manipulation however so you would like it sister, but you will only hurt yourself in the process. You can type yourself as a manipulative person.

Mariella · 03-20-2010, 07:34 PM

Mine is ENFP. Husband's is ISTP, although the P and J were pretty close.

Lobo · 03-20-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

OH, I think you're going to see my ugly side come out now. YOU ARE NOT INFJ AND CAN'T BE SO GET OVER YOUR SELF.

lmao!!! Please...

Mariella · 03-20-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

OH, I think you're going to see my ugly side come out now. YOU ARE NOT INFJ AND CAN'T BE SO GET OVER YOUR SELF.

We, INFj's never, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, claim each other to be dishonest; you word twisting, lying, scound.

ROFL! This is classic! First, we should all put your first sentence in our signatures so you can read it every day, only directed at yourself. And the second sentence, where you say INFjs never call anyone dishonest, and then immediately call her dishonest, is just comedic gold. Thanks.

Minde · 03-20-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariella

ROFL! This is classic! First, we should all put your first sentence in our signatures so you can read it every day, only directed at yourself. And the second sentence, where you say INFjs never call anyone dishonest, and then immediately call her dishonest, is just comedic gold. Thanks.

Nah, I think her logic is that since I'm not (I can't possibly be) INFj, it's ok to call me names like liar and to try to hurt me, etc. It's only if I were INFj that it wouldn't be ok.

Anyway, I've been meaning to ask - how are your girls?

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariella

ROFL! This is classic! First, we should all put your first sentence in our signatures so you can read it every day, only directed at yourself. And the second sentence, where you say INFjs never call anyone dishonest, and then immediately call her dishonest, is just comedic gold. Thanks.

She is lying about her type and she called me dishonest, with no proof of it...that is one ugly button of mine.

Maritsa33 · 03-20-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Minde

Nah, I think her logic is that since I'm not (I can't possibly be) INFj, it's ok to call me names like liar and to try to hurt me, etc. It's only if I were INFj that it wouldn't be ok.

Anyway, I've been meaning to ask - how are your girls?

Read this it will do you a world of good "He feels much more confident and therefore has a clear conscience, only in the field of manipulating people." ESFP

You called me dishonest, you don't know the first thing about INFj's.

Mariella · 03-20-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Minde

Nah, I think her logic is that since I'm not (I can't possibly be) INFj, it's ok to call me names like liar and to try to hurt me, etc. It's only if I were INFj that it wouldn't be ok.

Anyway, I've been meaning to ask - how are your girls?

Aww, thanks! They're great. The baby has started walking! She's 13 months.

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03-20-2010, 07:30 PM	#351 (permalink)
Lobo Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,424	Maritsa, for the love of God (assuming you believe in a deity), have a bit of an open mind for what people are telling you... The problem is not so much your conviction, it's that you don't offer any reasoning behind your beliefs that can guide other people into what you believe in. You show a John the Baptist complex, coming here and just preaching as if it's your God-given right, and you don't care about guiding people whatsoever to try and understand you.

03-20-2010, 07:34 PM	#354 (permalink)
Mariella Forum Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,926 Blog Entries: 2	Mine is ENFP. Husband's is ISTP, although the P and J were pretty close.