Which type is more maternal SEE or EIE?

ISTj · 01-20-2010, 03:39 AM

I've been thinking about this, I know it's a generalisation to say which type is more maternal but which type on the whole do you think is more maternal, the EIE or the SEE?

Morcheeba · 01-20-2010, 05:42 AM

No, I don't think it's type related either. I don't have any feelings to reproduce. I suppose I have strong negative feelings about the world around me; I wouldn't want to bring anyone into this mess. Maybe if it improved just a little, but that won't happen anytime soon.

silverchris9 · 01-20-2010, 06:22 AM

Depends on what you mean by maternal. Any type can be maternal in the most important sense, i.e., love (whatever that word means) and self-sacrifice for children. In that sense any type can be paternal as well. But if you mean stereotypically maternal, I'd go ESE > EIE, because in my head, the stereotypical mom is an ESE E2w1 who cooks for her kids (Si) and says soothing words when they get a boo boo (Fe). Obviously that's a massive oversimplification, but you get the idea of where I'm going. Also, I know an ESE that's so maternal that her friends (who are the same age as her) refer to her as Mama [her last name]. The funny part? She takes it as a compliment. lol. She's cool people though. Also, Se-demonstrative (Se that "leaks out" as it was said in another thread) is something I associate with the typical pushy mom who just assumes she has the right to shape her children's lives because she knows best.

silverchris9 · 01-20-2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica

This is mostly stereotypical bullshit. Sorry.

True. That's why I said it was stereotypical. Unless you mean the love for the child bit, and that I a) intentionally left vague, and b) take on faith anyway.

EDIT: also, don't be sorry. if what I said was bs and I didn't realize it, then it would be better for me to know than not know, right?

redbaron · 01-20-2010, 01:25 PM

I thought my IEE mom did a good job. she wasn't always what I needed, but very attentive (sometimes too much so). HER mom was the stereotypical ESE so she learned a lot from her. Her sister (my aunt) is EIE and imo didn't do as good of a job as a mom as my own mom. Which is interesting given the fact that she's in my quadra. I really like my aunt but she's too demanding, angry and intimidating. Of course part of that could be because she's married to her supervisor. That can't be easy.

Gilly · 01-20-2010, 01:58 PM

Well I would say that EIEs are more stereotypically paternal than maternal: they tend to sort of have things "under control," . I feel like a good example of the EIE's role in family from nature would be a male lion: they may or may not do a lot of the family's leg work, but their main role is to be there to sort of puff their chest out and have bravado if anyone tries to fuck with the family or if they need some posturing to deal with other prides.

I've noticed that EIE mothers tend to be kind of haphazard; a lot of times they will try to slip into the typical mother role, but it's typically very stressful for them and they really just don't have the natural warmth or attentiveness to be that stereotypical American stay-at-home mom. Not saying they aren't good mothers, but these are some of the typical downfalls that I see that make me lean away from the stereotype applying to them.

I feel like SEEs could go either way. They probably aren't stereotypically "maternal," the cultural image of which I tend to think is more Si-derived, but they are generally VERY loyal and family-oriented, and can be very attentive, so I would say they are more naturally maternal than EIEs. Can't think of a great example from the animal kingdom for this one.

somavision · 01-20-2010, 02:59 PM

Gender may have a effect.

Jarno · 01-20-2010, 04:39 PM

surprisingly, not type related, IME.

Pied Piper · 01-25-2010, 07:43 AM

I find SEE pretty demanding, capricious and impatient. EIEs are protective, although impatient. So EIE make better parents, I suppose.

@Jarno: sorry for you, but I see chances that you'll be the one who will wipe the baby.

Pied Piper · 01-25-2010, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica

Why sorry?

It was an allusion to his demanding dual

.

Pied Piper · 01-25-2010, 04:35 PM

Knowing myself, I think I'll be that monkey bank

. Attractive proposition to bond with the kids, though.

Typhon · 03-06-2010, 08:58 AM

SEE being sensors probably provide better for their children per se. But watch out for what I call the "disloyalty complex" amongst SEEs!

Jarno · 03-06-2010, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISTj

I've been thinking about this, I know it's a generalisation to say which type is more maternal but which type on the whole do you think is more maternal, the EIE or the SEE?

I remember that there are statistics about this.

I once visited a website that Tutururuttu had in his signature, a socionist had done some investigation about the number of children that a type had.

Pretty strange results. LII had the biggest family if I recall right.

I do remember that none of the usual stereotypes that one would have expected was true.

01-20-2010, 03:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
ISTj Initiate Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 20	Which type is more maternal SEE or EIE? I've been thinking about this, I know it's a generalisation to say which type is more maternal but which type on the whole do you think is more maternal, the EIE or the SEE?

01-20-2010, 05:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Morcheeba Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 627 Blog Entries: 1	No, I don't think it's type related either. I don't have any feelings to reproduce. I suppose I have strong negative feelings about the world around me; I wouldn't want to bring anyone into this mess. Maybe if it improved just a little, but that won't happen anytime soon. __________________ EIE 4w5

01-20-2010, 06:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
silverchris9 wants to be a writer. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,005 Blog Entries: 4	Depends on what you mean by maternal. Any type can be maternal in the most important sense, i.e., love (whatever that word means) and self-sacrifice for children. In that sense any type can be paternal as well. But if you mean stereotypically maternal, I'd go ESE > EIE, because in my head, the stereotypical mom is an ESE E2w1 who cooks for her kids (Si) and says soothing words when they get a boo boo (Fe). Obviously that's a massive oversimplification, but you get the idea of where I'm going. Also, I know an ESE that's so maternal that her friends (who are the same age as her) refer to her as Mama [her last name]. The funny part? She takes it as a compliment. lol. She's cool people though. Also, Se-demonstrative (Se that "leaks out" as it was said in another thread) is something I associate with the typical pushy mom who just assumes she has the right to shape her children's lives because she knows best. __________________ *Not a rule, just a trend.* IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best. Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music... I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.

01-20-2010, 01:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gilly Pure Join Date: Nov 2005 Sociotype: EIE-Ni 3w4 sx/so Posts: 17,841	Well I would say that EIEs are more stereotypically paternal than maternal: they tend to sort of have things "under control," . I feel like a good example of the EIE's role in family from nature would be a male lion: they may or may not do a lot of the family's leg work, but their main role is to be there to sort of puff their chest out and have bravado if anyone tries to fuck with the family or if they need some posturing to deal with other prides. I've noticed that EIE mothers tend to be kind of haphazard; a lot of times they will try to slip into the typical mother role, but it's typically very stressful for them and they really just don't have the natural warmth or attentiveness to be that stereotypical American stay-at-home mom. Not saying they aren't good mothers, but these are some of the typical downfalls that I see that make me lean away from the stereotype applying to them. I feel like SEEs could go either way. They probably aren't stereotypically "maternal," the cultural image of which I tend to think is more Si-derived, but they are generally VERY loyal and family-oriented, and can be very attentive, so I would say they are more naturally maternal than EIEs. Can't think of a great example from the animal kingdom for this one. __________________ discojoe: I don't feel like I'm really debating when I do it. It feels like reformatting a hard drive that shouts curses at me.

01-20-2010, 02:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
somavision Bumbling Frenchman Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London Posts: 837	Gender may have a effect. __________________ IEE-Ne/usually irrational, randomly creative type.

01-20-2010, 01:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
redbaron Forum Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,929	I thought my IEE mom did a good job. she wasn't always what I needed, but very attentive (sometimes too much so). HER mom was the stereotypical ESE so she learned a lot from her. Her sister (my aunt) is EIE and imo didn't do as good of a job as a mom as my own mom. Which is interesting given the fact that she's in my quadra. I really like my aunt but she's too demanding, angry and intimidating. Of course part of that could be because she's married to her supervisor. That can't be easy.

01-20-2010, 04:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jarno Senior member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 3,715	surprisingly, not type related, IME. __________________ ILI -Te

01-25-2010, 07:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pied Piper Inexorable Tunes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brain Sociotype: ILE Posts: 4,958	I find SEE pretty demanding, capricious and impatient. EIEs are protective, although impatient. So EIE make better parents, I suppose. @Jarno: sorry for you, but I see chances that you'll be the one who will wipe the baby. __________________ "No trifling! I can't wait, beside! ... With him I proved no bargain-driver, With you, don't think I'll bait a stiver! And folks who put me in a passion May find me pipe to another fashion."

01-25-2010, 04:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pied Piper Inexorable Tunes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brain Sociotype: ILE Posts: 4,958	Knowing myself, I think I'll be that monkey bank . Attractive proposition to bond with the kids, though. __________________ "No trifling! I can't wait, beside! ... With him I proved no bargain-driver, With you, don't think I'll bait a stiver! And folks who put me in a passion May find me pipe to another fashion."

03-06-2010, 08:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
Typhon lol lorazepam Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brussels Belgium Posts: 788	SEE being sensors probably provide better for their children per se. But watch out for what I call the "disloyalty complex" amongst SEEs! __________________ ENFj, Ni subtype, 4W5

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode