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I'm sorry, but this just feels like “coffee = sex” mentality. Don't assume I want you just because I let you dance with me. K? lol
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I always know if I want it or not too and if I don't I have no problem saying so. I know girls that have ended up dating guys just because the guy was kind of sneaky about it and the girl was too passive to make much of a fuss out of it. Ugh, there seems to be this whole mentality about "getting girls" that certain guys have and I just absolutely hate it and will have nothing to do with it. Sirena's story just reminded me of guys that are like that I guess.
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Again, I'd like to stress this isn't a conscious thing. I know some people don't get it and are probably going to get a completely twisted picture of what I'm trying to describe and picture us as black widow spiders or something lol. Eh, I'm always disappointment with the product of my trying to explain what I'm thinking/feeling. | ||
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I mean, if he buys you a mocha, really, what else could you expect?
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BBC - The Editors: Guaranteed to divide Coffee’ doesn’t mean coffee! ‘Coffee’ means sex! Café Crem I think it's the same thing with prom. You know how it's like a common expectation for girls to “put out” on prom night? Ew, lol. “I bought you a corsage, do I get laid now??”
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Fwiw, I agree with Diana and Sirena. It sounded like something you'd see in a movie or read in a 19th century novel. I don't understand why, whenever someone posts about liking any kind of male assertiveness, there are always these "sounds like rape"/"you are being held a prisoner!" comments. (not that these were necc. that bad, but you get the point.) I feel like if this were to happen IRL, almost everyone's reaction would be like "aww" or "that's hot."
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| Senior Member | Oh, sorry. My second comment had nothing to do with what you said, but rather was something that happened to a friend of mine. I guess the whole theme of "guy being assertive and girl going along with it" reminded me of that incident.
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How'd you like your coffee? Straight and strong please. | |
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You know both perceptions are true. We need the asshole that chokes the sensitive faggotry right out of us and spits in our worthless whore faces. And you also need the sensitive gay male-ish guy that shares your womanly politically correction on how we should all just get along and that we're just all one big happy family. Please stop debating which one is better or worse. It's not about that. You need both. Gender differences exist and the general stereotypes about everything ALWAYS holds true, but they are natural and more subtle than people realize. So don't get insecure over them OK?
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I like the way Betas touch. IEIs and SLEs in particular. It's not necessarily "hard", it can be very gentle, too, but it's more fluent and more passionate than, say, sweeter and more careful Alphas. I agree with the descriptions here and these other places, too. Quote:
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But I think I get Sirena, too, as it's ok to kiss if you KNOW the "no" was not really meant. However, if the "no" WAS meant, then I'd get very angry and disrespect the guy.... I'm difficult, I know. Quote:
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Also, if it really was rape and you were in a habit of telling the guy "no" in a teasing way, then it's even harder to prove it was rape. It seems like a bad situation to put yourself in to not be clear, also an unfair situation to put a guy in too. You might think you're on the same page w/ a guy only to find out you aren't. I'd say there are other ways to be coy, and with the laws being what they are, best to keep the "yes" and "no" words separate. I mean, people are free to do whatever they think is hot in private, but it's not fair to guys or girls to promote the idea that you can tease a guy w/ the word "no" just because you find it hot. That's just a really bad idea.
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Sirena, I totally get the turn-on of that scenario. and, jewels, he didn't rape her, he kissed her. and she liked it. so no one's saying it's okay to say no and then be raped. he probably could tell that she was simply a little bit unsure rather than extremely opposed. SLEs aren't THAT dumb. lol (usually) |
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jewels .. the amount of date rape is high .. lots of guys expect girls to have sex with them if they take them out for dinner .. if they don't.. then they can punish them, or force them. it's life, deal with it. not every girl can stand up for herself.
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